X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.243] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6568057 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:04:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.243; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ipEe1m0041zF43QADq3iV0; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 02:03:42 +0000 Received: from sz0081.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iq3i1m0042xZMJ48kq3i7J; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 02:03:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 02:03:42 +0000 (UTC) From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <50526332.4117034.1383012222170.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 05 RX8 rollover-no-start in my shop. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4117033_425359885.1383012222170" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:68.40.10.159] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1383012222; bh=EoAR124Lmv32CQOFXNxLkwo0iWCr/ciaEBHnZu59ji0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=l1rpYVL18Lnqa2Jro3CdOsG5QyVRAVCQQloDZk9KPPA623FklDAcraN01O839QuCG ueUki2RoFnpZMXCKqWDloErg8IVoDwz9lyJVNXwBcZXOy5+Lcyexxp7soeWyAh61wr /d8aPrNVGev1VMx7oQrQay09UvQTlpRf9tjyttm+5Fz6DYqC5QnxHqOlqulfqWYnXr E4bxZsmib2exNY8VlpxNUkCAWTkZM04qSrztsAC67cKVUdnzPP72TxYeyzrzp/nLS2 WZdBowdn9PBc0MVGX7FzsFWhlEG79dnEoqZxp5t2T465GggZWVrF8NZRtMFD42t71P /berrvqHtkqgw== ------=_Part_4117033_425359885.1383012222170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, eng. now runs, EFI disabled, coils disabled, 2cyc. oil added to fuel ta= nk 1/2 to1 , used the ATF-acetone mixture 50/50, aprox. 4oz. of each ( shak= en-not stirred ) poured into lower intake while cranking, through two vac. = ports that had plugs over them/unused one for each rotor, added 12" hoses &= small funnels, & had plugs removed for cleaning, cranked eng., let sit 1hr= . cranked eng. every 1/2 hr. for most of the day, then added one oz. real m= otor oil, cranked eng., cleaned plug hole area of flammable debris, install= ed plugs, EFI enabled, switched charger to 100A eng. start mode, after thre= e tries started & ran on it's own, instant IFR inside shop even with overhe= ad doors open, reached op. temp. shutdown, hoist & drain oil ( cust. had fu= ll syn. oil in crankcase ) add real oil, run & drain oil again, change filt= er, 5:45pm time to go home, feed & let the dogs outside. Cont. tomorrow. Cu= st was told will need new eng. We'll see, not done yet. Total time so far= =3D aprox. 3 hrs. David R. Cook RV6A Rotary.=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Lehanover@aol.com=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:49:55 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 05 RX8 rollover-no-start in my shop.=20 If it is going to need to pass emissions you might want to bypass the react= or for these "Repairs"...................On the other hand you might try a = nice gentle push start. Spin it up in 2nd gear. If you get it running get i= t up to normal temps and slowly pour in about a pop cans worth of plain old= tap water into the throttle body. This will take all of the carbon off of = the rotors. Add some 2 cycle oil to the fuel tank and make sure the OMP is = working. This is what happens when you burn multigrade dino oil in a rotary= .=20 One pop can for each housing for carbed engines. Same for piston engines be= fore an overhaul. Ends all of the scraping and wire brushing.=20 Do this outside with an old towel over the tail pipe. A ghastly load of cra= p comes out of old engines cleaned this way. This stuff stains and will not= wipe off of anything.=20 Lynn E. Hanover=20 In a message dated 10/24/2013 7:55:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hoursaway= 1@comcast.net writes:=20 Ok will get started tomorrow & will let you know the results. David R. Cook= RV6A Rotary ( need some air time this weekend.)=20 ------=_Part_4117033_425359885.1383012222170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Ok, eng. = now runs,  EFI disabled, coils disabled,  2cyc. oil added to fuel= tank 1/2 to1 ,  used the ATF-acetone mixture 50/50, aprox. 4oz. of ea= ch ( shaken-not stirred ) poured into lower intake while cranking, through = two vac. ports that had plugs over them/unused one for each rotor,  ad= ded 12" hoses & small funnels,  & had plugs removed for cleani= ng, cranked eng.,  let sit 1hr.  cranked eng. every 1/2 hr. for m= ost of the day, then added one oz. real motor oil, cranked eng., cleaned pl= ug hole area of flammable debris, installed plugs, EFI enabled, switched ch= arger to 100A eng. start mode, after three tries started & ran on it's = own, instant IFR inside shop even with overhead doors open, reached op. tem= p. shutdown, hoist & drain oil ( cust. had full syn. oil in crankcase )= add real oil, run & drain oil again, change filter, 5:45pm time to go = home, feed & let the dogs outside. Cont. tomorrow. Cust was told will n= eed new eng. We'll see, not done yet. Total time so far=3D aprox. 3 hrs. &n= bsp;            David R. Cook  RV6A Rota= ry.

From: Lehanover@aol.com
To: "R= otary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: <= /b>Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:49:55 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:= 05 RX8 rollover-no-start in my shop.

If it is going to need to pass emissions you might want to bypass the= =20 reactor for these "Repairs"...................On the other hand you might t= ry a=20 nice gentle push start. Spin it up in 2nd gear. If you get it running get i= t up=20 to normal temps and slowly pour in about a pop cans worth of plain old= tap=20 water into the throttle body. This will take all of the carbon off of the= =20 rotors. Add some 2 cycle oil to the fuel tank and make sure the O= MP is=20 working. This is what happens when you burn multigrade  dino oil in a= =20 rotary.
 
One pop can for each housing for carbed engines. Same for piston engin= es=20 before an overhaul. Ends all of the scraping and wire brushing.
Do this outside with an old towel over the tail pipe. A ghastly load o= f=20 crap comes out of old engines cleaned this way. This stuff stains and will = not=20 wipe off of anything. 
  Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/24/2013 7:55:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 hoursaway1@comcast.net writes:
Ok will=20 get started tomorrow & will let you know the results.  David R.= =20 Cook  RV6A Rotary  ( need some air time this=20 weekend.)
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