X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTP id 5863018 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 12:41:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.122; envelope-from=clouduster@austin.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=RoZH3VaK c=1 sm=0 a=eTgKrshEm7xbomDJ3kHi1g==:17 a=409vFuCXsmoA:10 a=OsDvjARplp8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=u4pfgjkbltAA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=fEPkXMRol_CmVPANN2UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=H_0_IxngDh4WtbUk:21 a=NhbvfSSLyWKDNmS7:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=XohFVUQR1DAxU5TSQgwA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=QZbkbYjfDMoxbb1Y:21 a=eTgKrshEm7xbomDJ3kHi1g==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.182.13.24 Received: from [72.182.13.24] ([72.182.13.24:63848] helo=DWHPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/74-15169-E2AF7905; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:41:03 +0000 Message-ID: <28B20DBB92A44A22BC96AA15E642B78E@DWHPC> From: "Dennis Havarlah" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 upgrade? Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:40:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0529_01CDBB4A.6CC4E730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0529_01CDBB4A.6CC4E730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is similar to the miss I have had since day 1. I feel it at least = every 5 to 15 minutes. When I added dampers to my manifold pressure = lines the problem became less frequent. I hope to send it to Tracy this = winter. =20 Also, I have the aluminum parts cut out for a second crank angle sensor = for the Renesis. =20 Tracy, I plan to send these to you for your use in working out the = details to make it work on the B controller. Dennis H. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Bradburry=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 upgrade? OK, Tracy, =20 Let me know when the EC2 version is ready. I will try it to see if it = helps the problem. I have not found anything else so far. =20 Bill B =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:16 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 upgrade? =20 Hi Bill, The upgrade is primarily aimed at the new closed loop and self = programming modes. While writing the new code I noticed that there was = a potential for a single ignition or injection cycle to be missed under = an unlikely but still possible series of events involving more factors = than I have room to describe. I do not know if this is the cause of = what you have experienced or not but I went ahead and eliminated this = specific possibility in the latest code. In the 1500+ hours I've been = flying the EC2/3 I've felt what might be this missed cycle maybe 5 = times. It does feel like a miss ( not a backfire) and I would not say = it shakes the whole airframe as you or someone else described. = Perception is a highly individual thing though :-).=20 =20 The new update is available for the EC3 now but the EC2 version is = still in work and scheduled to be ready in a few weeks. =20 Tracy Sent from my iPad On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:54 PM, "Bill Bradburry" = wrote: Thanks, Steve. And you did an excellent job of writing it! =20 It appears that Tracy has an upgrade available now to correct this = problem. Is this true Tracy? =20 Bill B =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Steven W. Boese Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 8:59 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 upgrade? =20 Bill, =20 There is a mention of this in the archive message titled "Rotorfest = 2012 report". =20 Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on = behalf of Bill Bradburry [bbradburry@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 8:30 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] EC-2 upgrade? A while back, someone mentioned that Tracy was working on a fix that = could help intermittent miss problems. I have not found that comment in = my searches. Can anyone bring us up to date on this? Tracy? =20 I am still having the intermittent hiccup that shakes the plane. My = wife would not be happy with that! =20 Bill B ------=_NextPart_000_0529_01CDBB4A.6CC4E730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is similar to the miss I have had = since day=20 1.  I feel it at least every 5 to 15 minutes.  When I added = dampers to=20 my manifold pressure lines the problem became less frequent.  I = hope to=20 send it to Tracy this winter. 
 
Also,  I have = the aluminum parts cut=20 out for a second crank angle sensor for the Renesis. 
Tracy, I plan to send these to you for = your use in=20 working out the details to make it work on the B = controller.
 
Dennis H.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Bradburry
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 = 11:01=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2=20 upgrade?

OK,=20 Tracy,

 

Let me know = when the=20 EC2 version is ready.  I will try it to see if it helps the=20 problem.  I have not found anything else so=20 far.

 

Bill=20 B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 = 11:16=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2=20 upgrade?

 

Hi Bill,

     The upgrade is primarily = aimed at=20 the new closed loop and self programming modes.   While writing = the new=20 code I noticed that there was a potential for a single ignition or = injection=20 cycle to be missed under an unlikely but still possible series of = events=20 involving more factors than I have room to describe.   I do not = know if=20 this is the cause of what you have experienced or not but I went ahead = and=20 eliminated this specific possibility in the latest code.   In the = 1500+=20 hours I've been flying the EC2/3 I've felt what might be this missed = cycle=20 maybe 5 times.   It does feel like a miss ( not a backfire) and I = would=20 not say it shakes the whole airframe as you or someone else described. =  =20 Perception is a highly individual thing though=20 :-). 

 

The new update is available for the EC3 now = but the=20 EC2 version is still in work and scheduled to be ready in a few=20 weeks.

 

Tracy

Sent=20 from my iPad


On Nov 4, = 2012, at=20 8:54 PM, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>= =20 wrote:

Thanks,=20 Steve.  And you did an excellent job of writing=20 it!

 

It = appears that=20 Tracy has = an upgrade=20 available now to correct this problem.  Is this true Tracy?

 

Bill=20 B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net]=20 On Behalf Of Steven = W.=20 Boese
Sent: = Sunday,=20 November 04, 2012 8:59 PM
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC-2 = upgrade?

 

Bill,

 

There = is a=20 mention of this in the archive message titled "Rotorfest 2012=20 report".

 

Steve=20 Boese

RV6A, = 1986 13B=20 NA, RD1A, = EC2

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20 on behalf of Bill=20 Bradburry [bbradburry@bellsouth.net]Sent: Sunday, November 04, = 2012 8:30=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] EC-2=20 upgrade?

A while = back,=20 someone mentioned that Tracy was = working on=20 a fix that could help intermittent miss problems.  I have not = found=20 that comment in my searches.  Can anyone bring us up to date on = this?   Tracy?

 

I am = still having=20 the intermittent hiccup that shakes the plane.  My wife would = not be=20 happy with that!

 

Bill=20 = B

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