X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-Junk-Score: 2 [X] X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.161] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with SMTP id 5724886 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:38:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.161; envelope-from=echristley@att.net Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 03:38:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.196] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 03:38:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 03:38:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 610207.57748.bm@omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74515 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2012 03:38:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1345693104; bh=bSnbg4pFZkzrR9eYVb6WubVrZ/tKn+ZbrZQnpKc+S6I=; h=Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lr3gE8IwDPhdRCGtbEKlX6miAjNoZI95otxwukDdDCuYvFRIKEX6JOanMQ4McowFgbeP4moWfDZNApVUpXv7IoEoI9NEt8nWgkRSLfjIq3xaItQXFLWVA4tN1g59Qg0OvNLnQYHBJp0Kde/bw63js7K6DxK6uCBZZaWZ7PFZZGs= Message-ID: <557953.62412.qm@smtp110-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Nq20auEVM1n141EW412Vu91DixS6VMyLDEEyqnNUvBJ6fCi t4yzjVNiMAJfX355BUqcRL_hfHMgOZqxAYEO6sOEb42qI_bkNKIbOxvXtYiJ K0PrX_1.6t4NQxVFE35WGMqow9G9YsHWxDy7ONR16a7lht_E0JW2S3RMlx7C rA5ahJbitM1XQx7trRYCqfbJmMQ0SL63nF86no9AWeFt7ZglRs_f3JqXsHKO aed9QkXMXzTluiQZ2rFp2pVL1xRS1n_CiAVWidvcDIXiCTdWI0XQWzKZ3TS2 CsNobqiWljuJfboUdSJgmJYO7xEikuwwRb6gEl0xlyqF0.KXWVQTWvQiGLJv eR32NA89w0xICxKlltQn_5DCAbwET92WQ4PCk.mCVMuZVUf1lyqG67ox5GaR 0p2OFgKMRQQz3SfDpc.4glxn4bNppzJyZZ3ghMIcyKud9yY3d74iSGcpwkHX ICx9Y_tLIBXJgNMzjR1A7ZRqTmpOHeLC_PD06gYBfko2qp7RaBNT_IbjZCAS 01JvdA22nXw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 40RP3pGswBDvPav1a.I8eMv.KS8bdgWBnCloVoKaow-- Received: from oz.com (echristley@63.236.37.73 with xymcookie) by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 20:38:24 -0700 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:38:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop revs From: "Ernest" Reply-To: "Ernest" To: , "Neil Unger" Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, are you going to share that spreadsheet before you have to = run the numbers for everyone?

ED and all.
        Ran up to 6300 revs (approx= ) and=20 the fuel flow was showing 14.1 GPH at 14 A/F ratio.  Not sure that the= fuel=20 flow is correct as has not been set yet. This is Tracy=E2=80=99s standard s= etting so=20 far.   Engine is lumpy under 1800 rpm and has its moments until o= ver=20 3000 rpm when everything acts normally. Suspect that part of the blame may = be=20 the slide throttle.  Have 6.5 hours on the ground so far and will chec= k for=20 another few hours yet.  Full noise gives an EGT of 1770, so will have = to up=20 the alarm limit to 1800. Finally fixed all the oil and water leaks.  A= ny=20 advice re what to check next before take off ?  Neil.
 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:21 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <= /DIV>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop revs
 
Hi= =20 Ed=20
 
Thanks for the offer but I'm not flying yet.
Hopefully early next year.
 
Steve Izett
Glasair SIIRG Renesis 4 port RD1C EC2 EM3
On 22/08/2012, at 8:51 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
Steve, if you give me the fuel flow you are seein= g at=20 6300 rpm and manifold pressure, I can give you a pretty good estimate fro= m my=20 spreadsheet of what power you are producing.  Also should you happen= to=20 have the Air/Fuel ratio that would be a plus but not essential.
 
Ed
 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop revs
 
Thanks Ed=20
I've wondered what my Renesis 4 port with a good intake manifold and= in=20 flight adjustable prop will produce.
So on a cold day she will hopefully still breath to 7250RPM and mayb= e=20 approach 200HP?
 
Cheers
 
Steve Izett
 
 
On 21/08/2012, at 11:40 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
Steve,
 
On a cold morning when I can see 19-20 gph on t= ake off=20 at 6200 rpm, I calculate based on fuel burn rate and an air/fuel ratio = of=20 12.65:1 that I am probably producing around 180-185 HP.  On hot da= ys=20 based on fuel burn of 16.5-17.0 GPH, I calculate around 165-170=20 HP.
 
The fastest I've ever had the Rv-6A was 200 mph= TAS=20 burning round 13.25-14.5 GPH.
 
But, none of this was done on a dyno - its base= d on=20 fuel burn and rpm and  we all know a rotary can pass through more = fuel=20 than is producing power.  Anyhow, it=E2=80=99s the best estimate I= have. =20
 
Ed
 
From: Stephen Izett
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:31 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop revs
 
Ed=20
 
Out of interest, what do you think you are getting in HP from your= 13B=20 and at what RPM?
 
Steve Izett
 
 
 
On 21/08/2012, at 9:15 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
I would say you have  winner.  Does= of=20 course depend on what prop load you were pulling during static run.= =20
 
I have a fixed pitch 74x88 and a well-tuned o= lder=20 13B and the best I have ever got static - was 6200 rpm on a cold=20 day.  Normally, I get 6000-6100 rpm. 
 
So depending on your prop, it looks like you = are=20 doing great for static rpm.
 
Ed
 
From: Neil=20 Unger
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 9:48 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Prop revs
 
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