Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2990647 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:56:31 -0500 Received: from edward (clt78-020.carolina.rr.com [24.93.78.20]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i1DFuPaM025143 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:56:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006901c3f249$f36f06e0$2402a8c0@edward> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: spreadsheet Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:56:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C3F220.0A66F260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C3F220.0A66F260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, yes, the cut it this length -Oops, they really meant it that length = + 2 inches deal. You will overcome no doubt in my mind - besides that = just adds to the challenge. 72 lbs injectors just might give you a = ragged idle, but if its only one injector on at idle then it might not = be that bad. Yes, please keep us informed, the MM is a bit bigger challenge than most = of us are tackling. Plenty of room under the cowl I suppose. Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barnhart=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: spreadsheet Ed, Thanx for the spreadsheet.=20 Work has finally slowed up to where I can get some serious time on the = plane. Put the most of the long block together this week. I was = putting the last rotor in the rotor housing when a corner seal "jumped" = off the rotor, hit the floor and split in two. The 3mm Hurleys are a = pain to install. The first spring is easy, the second one hits a part = of the two piece on the bottom and won't seat correctly. You pull out = the rotor and do it again until all 3 have the second spring fitting = correctly. A little bit of glue holding the two pieces together makes = it much easier. I have my turbo sitting in the garage, right next to = Tracy's RD1B. After talking with Tracy I'm adding one spacer do to the = extra HP. The MM came set up for a 13b rear plate and not the 20b that I = have. A minor problem. My Meziere WP 430 water pump should be here this = week. A friend of mine is building the adapter plate. He's so busy I = may have to do it myself. Fortunately I have a fairly large area to = install the turbo. Plan A is to mount the turbo fairly tight to the = intake manifold by the first rotor. It will be anchored on the mount = with a second piece spring loaded to keep the expansion/contractions = down. The MM is one of Jerry Heys Universal MM. I really like it. Paul = may have another tangent going on MM but this works wonderfully for my = anchor points on the firewall. I have a TWM 3003 throttle body. I'll be = doing this with 3 injectors, one per rotor. May not idle all that well = tho . The injectors put out 72 pounds at 45psi. Plan on putting the = radiator and oil cooler under the engine. I'm going to have Ed Klepis = weld up custom radiators that will fit in a "box" suspended like the way = Rusty is doing. The oil cooler will be on the cool side of the plane = running the long way. I'd never get this built if I wait for the latest = and greatest.... Anything having to do with Murphy is not fun,work. Everything else is = enjoyable.=20 Murphy is still driving me nuts. I didn't know that cable was made out = of gold. The tell you to cut a piece x inches long. It should be two = inches longer, they obviously aren't worried about trimming them up. = I'll be moving alot of stuff out of the garage this summer to get the = tail on the plane. The elevator needs 11' of room. So does my wife's = car. Plan A is to have the engine running, tail assembly complete, = before going out to the hangar. All it will need is to have the wings = put on. Looking at GRT glass for the six pack, Tracy's EC2 and his EM2 = for engine stuff.=20 Setting it up for amphibs. I have the rear spuds in. Holes to get all = the other stuff in when it comes time to do it. The big catch is that = my hangar door is 3" to low to get it in. The cure is a $3000 door... We had 3 weeks of below zero weather here that really kept me out of = the shop. =20 During Oshkosh this year I'm going to have a rotor head nite. Thursday = or Friday. Not sure if it will be at the house, hangar, or somewhere in = Oshkosh. Thinking about mode now. It'll be hard to keep up Laura....... I was going to send this to you privately, but maybe someone will find = some entertainment in it.=20 Barny MGDQ 20bt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Barnhart=20 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] spreadsheet Hi Barry, how are things going Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barnhart=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] spreadsheet Ed, =20 Sure would like a copy of your spread sheet. dsbarno@vbe.com Barny MGDQ 20bt -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- This message scanned for viruses by Corecomm ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C3F220.0A66F260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, yes, the cut it this length -Oops, = they really=20 meant it that length + 2 inches deal.   You will overcome no = doubt in=20 my mind - besides that just adds to the challenge.  72 lbs = injectors just=20 might give you a ragged idle, but if its only one injector on at idle = then it=20 might not be that bad.
 
Yes, please keep us informed, the MM is = a bit=20 bigger challenge than most of us are tackling.  Plenty of room = under the=20 cowl I suppose.
 
Ed
 
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Barnhart
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 = 10:49=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 spreadsheet

Ed,
 
Thanx for the spreadsheet. =
 
Work has finally slowed up to where I = can get=20 some serious time on the plane.  Put the most of the long block = together=20 this week.  I was putting the last rotor in the rotor housing = when=20 a  corner seal "jumped" off the rotor, hit the floor and split in = two.  The 3mm Hurleys are a pain to install.  The first = spring is=20 easy, the second one hits a part of the two piece on the bottom and = won't seat=20 correctly. You pull out the rotor and do it again until all 3 have the = second=20 spring fitting correctly.  A little bit of glue holding the two = pieces=20 together makes it much easier. I have my turbo sitting in the garage, = right=20 next to Tracy's RD1B. After talking with Tracy I'm adding one spacer = do to the=20 extra HP. The MM came set up for a 13b rear plate and not the 20b that = I=20 have.  A minor problem. My Meziere WP 430 water pump should be = here this=20 week. A friend of mine is building the adapter plate.  He's so = busy I may=20 have to do it myself. Fortunately I have a fairly large area to = install the=20 turbo. Plan A is to mount the turbo fairly tight to the intake = manifold by the=20 first rotor. It will be anchored on the mount with a second piece = spring=20 loaded to keep the expansion/contractions down. The MM is one of Jerry = Heys=20 Universal MM. I really like it. Paul may have another tangent going on = MM but=20 this works wonderfully for my anchor points on the firewall.  I = have a=20 TWM 3003 throttle body. I'll be doing this with 3 injectors, one per = rotor.=20 May not idle all that well tho . The injectors put out 72 pounds at = 45psi.=20 Plan on putting the radiator and oil cooler under the engine. I'm = going to=20 have Ed Klepis weld up custom radiators that will fit in a "box" = suspended=20 like the way Rusty is doing. The oil cooler will be on the cool side = of the=20 plane running the long way.  I'd never get this built if I wait = for the=20 latest and greatest....
 
Anything having to do with Murphy is = not=20 fun,work.  Everything else is enjoyable.
 
Murphy is still driving me nuts. I = didn't know=20 that cable was made out of gold. The tell you to cut a piece x inches = long. It=20 should be two inches longer, they obviously aren't worried about = trimming them=20 up. I'll be moving alot of stuff out of the  garage  this = summer to=20 get the tail on the plane. The elevator needs 11' of room. So = does my=20 wife's car.  Plan A is to have the engine running, tail assembly=20 complete, before going out to the hangar.  All it will need is to = have=20 the wings put on. Looking at GRT glass for the six pack, Tracy's EC2 = and his=20 EM2 for engine stuff.
 
Setting it up for amphibs.  I = have the rear=20 spuds in. Holes to get all the other stuff in when it comes time to do = it.  The big catch is that my hangar door is 3"  to low to = get it=20 in.  The cure is a $3000 door...
 
We had 3 weeks of below zero weather = here that=20 really kept me out of the shop. 
 
During Oshkosh this year I'm going to = have a=20 rotor head nite. Thursday or Friday.  Not sure if it will be at = the=20 house, hangar, or somewhere in Oshkosh. Thinking about mode now. It'll = be hard=20 to keep up Laura.......
 
I was going to send this to you = privately, but=20 maybe someone will find some entertainment in it.
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
Sent: Thursday, February 12, = 2004 6:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary]=20 spreadsheet

Hi Barry, how are things = going
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, = NC
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Barnhart
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Thursday, February = 12, 2004=20 9:59 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary]=20 spreadsheet

Ed, 
 
Sure would like a copy of your = spread sheet.=20 dsbarno@vbe.com
 
Barny
MGDQ = 20bt
 
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