Return-Path: Received: from out1.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net ([169.207.3.119] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2990636 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:45:17 -0500 Received: from mail4.mx.voyager.net (mail4.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.203]) by out1.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D59E32DB; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:45:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from u036fr3za011 (d77.as0.wtma.wi.voyager.net [64.77.139.143]) by mail4.mx.voyager.net (8.12.9/8.10.2) with SMTP id i1DFjDZS059540; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:45:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003101c3f248$f9eafd40$3c40fea9@u036fr3za011> From: "Barnhart" To: , "Ed Anderson" References: <003f01c3f1c6$40588eb0$2402a8c0@edward> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] spreadsheet Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:49:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3F216.AE54C820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3F216.AE54C820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, Thanx for the spreadsheet.=20 Work has finally slowed up to where I can get some serious time on the = plane. Put the most of the long block together this week. I was = putting the last rotor in the rotor housing when a corner seal "jumped" = off the rotor, hit the floor and split in two. The 3mm Hurleys are a = pain to install. The first spring is easy, the second one hits a part = of the two piece on the bottom and won't seat correctly. You pull out = the rotor and do it again until all 3 have the second spring fitting = correctly. A little bit of glue holding the two pieces together makes = it much easier. I have my turbo sitting in the garage, right next to = Tracy's RD1B. After talking with Tracy I'm adding one spacer do to the = extra HP. The MM came set up for a 13b rear plate and not the 20b that = I have. A minor problem. My Meziere WP 430 water pump should be here = this week. A friend of mine is building the adapter plate. He's so busy = I may have to do it myself. Fortunately I have a fairly large area to = install the turbo. Plan A is to mount the turbo fairly tight to the = intake manifold by the first rotor. It will be anchored on the mount = with a second piece spring loaded to keep the expansion/contractions = down. The MM is one of Jerry Heys Universal MM. I really like it. Paul = may have another tangent going on MM but this works wonderfully for my = anchor points on the firewall. I have a TWM 3003 throttle body. I'll be = doing this with 3 injectors, one per rotor. May not idle all that well = tho . The injectors put out 72 pounds at 45psi. Plan on putting the = radiator and oil cooler under the engine. I'm going to have Ed Klepis = weld up custom radiators that will fit in a "box" suspended like the way = Rusty is doing. The oil cooler will be on the cool side of the plane = running the long way. I'd never get this built if I wait for the latest = and greatest.... Anything having to do with Murphy is not fun,work. Everything else is = enjoyable.=20 Murphy is still driving me nuts. I didn't know that cable was made out = of gold. The tell you to cut a piece x inches long. It should be two = inches longer, they obviously aren't worried about trimming them up. = I'll be moving alot of stuff out of the garage this summer to get the = tail on the plane. The elevator needs 11' of room. So does my wife's = car. Plan A is to have the engine running, tail assembly complete, = before going out to the hangar. All it will need is to have the wings = put on. Looking at GRT glass for the six pack, Tracy's EC2 and his EM2 = for engine stuff.=20 Setting it up for amphibs. I have the rear spuds in. Holes to get all = the other stuff in when it comes time to do it. The big catch is that = my hangar door is 3" to low to get it in. The cure is a $3000 door... We had 3 weeks of below zero weather here that really kept me out of the = shop. =20 During Oshkosh this year I'm going to have a rotor head nite. Thursday = or Friday. Not sure if it will be at the house, hangar, or somewhere in = Oshkosh. Thinking about mode now. It'll be hard to keep up Laura....... I was going to send this to you privately, but maybe someone will find = some entertainment in it.=20 Barny MGDQ 20bt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Barnhart=20 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] spreadsheet Hi Barry, how are things going Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barnhart=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] spreadsheet Ed, =20 Sure would like a copy of your spread sheet. dsbarno@vbe.com Barny MGDQ 20bt -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- This message scanned for viruses by Corecomm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3F216.AE54C820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed,
 
Thanx for the spreadsheet. =
 
Work has finally slowed up to where I = can get some=20 serious time on the plane.  Put the most of the long block together = this=20 week.  I was putting the last rotor in the rotor housing when = a =20 corner seal "jumped" off the rotor, hit the floor and split in = two.  The=20 3mm Hurleys are a pain to install.  The first spring is easy, the = second=20 one hits a part of the two piece on the bottom and won't seat = correctly. You=20 pull out the rotor and do it again until all 3 have the second spring = fitting=20 correctly.  A little bit of glue holding the two pieces together = makes it=20 much easier. I have my turbo sitting in the garage, right next to = Tracy's RD1B.=20 After talking with Tracy I'm adding one spacer do to the extra HP. The = MM came=20 set up for a 13b rear plate and not the 20b that I have.  A minor = problem.=20 My Meziere WP 430 water pump should be here this week. A friend of mine = is=20 building the adapter plate.  He's so busy I may have to do it = myself.=20 Fortunately I have a fairly large area to install the turbo. Plan A is = to mount=20 the turbo fairly tight to the intake manifold by the first rotor. It = will be=20 anchored on the mount with a second piece spring loaded to keep the=20 expansion/contractions down. The MM is one of Jerry Heys Universal MM. I = really=20 like it. Paul may have another tangent going on MM but this works = wonderfully=20 for my anchor points on the firewall.  I have a TWM 3003 throttle = body.=20 I'll be doing this with 3 injectors, one per rotor. May not idle all = that well=20 tho . The injectors put out 72 pounds at 45psi. Plan on putting the = radiator and=20 oil cooler under the engine. I'm going to have Ed Klepis weld up custom=20 radiators that will fit in a "box" suspended like the way Rusty is = doing. The=20 oil cooler will be on the cool side of the plane running the long way. =  I'd=20 never get this built if I wait for the latest and = greatest....
 
Anything having to do with Murphy is = not=20 fun,work.  Everything else is enjoyable.
 
Murphy is still driving me nuts. I = didn't know that=20 cable was made out of gold. The tell you to cut a piece x inches long. = It should=20 be two inches longer, they obviously aren't worried about trimming them = up. I'll=20 be moving alot of stuff out of the  garage  this summer to get = the=20 tail on the plane. The elevator needs 11' of room. So does my = wife's car.=20  Plan A is to have the engine running, tail assembly complete, = before going=20 out to the hangar.  All it will need is to have the wings put on. = Looking=20 at GRT glass for the six pack, Tracy's EC2 and his EM2 for engine stuff. =
 
Setting it up for amphibs.  I have = the rear=20 spuds in. Holes to get all the other stuff in when it comes time to do = it. =20 The big catch is that my hangar door is 3"  to low to get it = in.  The=20 cure is a $3000 door...
 
We had 3 weeks of below zero weather = here that=20 really kept me out of the shop. 
 
During Oshkosh this year I'm going to = have a rotor=20 head nite. Thursday or Friday.  Not sure if it will be at the = house,=20 hangar, or somewhere in Oshkosh. Thinking about mode now. It'll be hard = to keep=20 up Laura.......
 
I was going to send this to you = privately, but=20 maybe someone will find some entertainment in it.
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Thursday, February 12, = 2004 6:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary]=20 spreadsheet

Hi Barry, how are things = going
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Barnhart
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Thursday, February 12, = 2004 9:59=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = spreadsheet

Ed, 
 
Sure would like a copy of your = spread sheet. dsbarno@vbe.com
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt
 
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