X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from aspensprings.uwyo.edu ([129.72.10.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5549221 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 May 2012 17:08:28 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.72.10.32; envelope-from=SBoese@uwyo.edu Received: from ponyexpress-ht4.uwyo.edu (extlb.uwyo.edu [172.26.4.4]) by aspensprings.uwyo.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4IL7jL3016981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 15:07:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from SBoese@uwyo.edu) Received: from ponyexpress-m10.uwyo.edu ([fe80::60dd:cb9e:6f71:3d48]) by ponyexpress-ht4.uwyo.edu ([fe80::8de7:b225:a85b:d0ee%13]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Fri, 18 May 2012 15:07:50 -0600 From: "Steven W. Boese" To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: BSFC and EGT Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: BSFC and EGT Thread-Index: AQHNNRdMecGKskb6jkmqr63mscOZtJbQBgfv Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:07:49 +0000 Message-ID: <3E8191F276108F4481AB0721BBA9269E05C4AEF4@ponyexpress-m10.uwyo.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [75.220.209.7] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Ernest, The base timing for the test was set as recommended in Tracy's EC2 manual. = TDC was determined using minimum displacement which matched the front pull= ey mark. The manual states that the timing is adjusted by the controller d= epending on "many" factors. I did not investigate the controller timing ch= aracteristics since I had no desire to second-guess or duplicate Tracy's "y= ears of testing". Steve ________________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Ernest Christley [echristley@att.net] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:55 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: BSFC and EGT I think this is going to be useful information, and concurs to what I was t= aught as a trucker...to save fuel, run slow and gear high. The first step for me is going to have to be mapping the EGT to AFR. Has= anyone done this, BTW? Is there a direct and consistent correlation? Once I have that, tuning then becomes a matter= of setting the target AFR in a table of RPM vs [TPS | MAP] and then running the engine through several power cycles acr= oss the timespan of a couple minutes. The computer will then adjust the fuel injector open times as needed to obtain = the target AFRs. One question I have about the data presented is, "What was done with igniti= on timing?" If the timing was held constant throughout the test, that explains a lot about the numbers. As the EGT dro= ps off from the AFR increases, the mixture is taking longer to burn. You could possibly be getting peak pressure well af= ter the 50* ATDC that Lynn has called out. The same would inform the peak heat transfer to coolant numbers. The heat = absorbed by the coolant is going to be as dependent on how long the fully burned mixture stays in the chamber as it i= s on the AFR. I can't speak directly to this experiment, because it doesn't mention timin= g. An interesting enhancement to the data generated would be to vary the mixture as before, but to tune the timing fo= r max power at each data point. If that was done, I'd be interested to see what the graph you shared yesterday would lo= ok like with the timing numbers added.=