X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5544522 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 May 2012 00:44:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.52; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-74-235-253-90.mco.bellsouth.net[74.235.253.90]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20120516044423H0200af16fe>; Wed, 16 May 2012 04:44:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.235.253.90] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: High EGTs Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 00:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: <02948208D51E4A9E81B323D3FF1098EA@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CD32FD.0BF51C20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0zHBK7LcyKOTVgTEa3Vp59vhrYWQAAamGQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CD32FD.0BF51C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian, Bill Eslick had a power loss that I think he feels was due to a Hushpower guts blocking the exhaust. He had an emergency landing as a result. I had a Hushpower on my plane, but just changed it out to a DNA muffler. My Hushpower seems to be still in ok shape structurally, but it is full of something loose that rattles when you shake it. It only has 30-40 hours on it. Only 23 flight hours. Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: High EGTs And I am running a Hushpower, I run a bore scope up it today and the exit cone looked completely intact. No way to check out the entrance cone without taking the exhuast system apart, which is possible but a PITA. Is a Hushpower considered restrictive? Brian Trubee -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 8:38 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: High EGTs Mark, Now you have gotten me concerned! I changed the muffler and that didn't seem to have any effect on the EGTs, so I don't think that is the cause, but I don't want to damage any orings. What were the temps you were seeing when the orings were damaged? Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [ mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:18 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: High EGTs Brian, I had high EGT's at one time. Turns out it was due to an overly restrictive muffler. The high EGT's damaged the o-rings resulting in an engine overhaul. Could this possibly be at the root of your high EGT readings? Mark S. On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM, < bktrub@aol.com> wrote: My engine is now running just the way it should, temps were 180 or lower on a 75 degree day, but my EGTs have always been high, really high- above 1800 almost all the time. I think it may be a calibration issue. My egt sensors are about 3 inches downstream of the exhaust ports, and I am using Tracy's EM2, calibrated at the stock settings. When the engine is stone cold, the egt's read about 230 degrees, which I assume is normal because the sensors are meant to operate at a much higher temperature. Any thoughts? Brian Trubee ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CD32FD.0BF51C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Brian,

 

Bill Eslick had a power loss that I = think he feels was due to a Hushpower guts blocking the exhaust.  He had = an emergency landing as a result.  I had a Hushpower on my plane, but = just changed it out to a DNA muffler.  My Hushpower seems to be still in = ok shape structurally, but it is full of something loose that rattles when = you shake it.  It only has 30-40 hours on it. Only 23 flight = hours.

 

Bill

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of bktrub@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, = 2012 12:26 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = High EGTs

 

And I am running a Hushpower, I = run a bore scope up it today and the exit cone looked completely intact. No = way to check out the entrance cone without taking the exhuast  system = apart, which is possible but a PITA. Is a Hushpower considered = restrictive?

 

=

Brian Trubee

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 8:38 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: High EGTs

Mark,

Now you have gotten me = concerned!  I changed the muffler and that didn’t seem to have any effect on the = EGTs, so I don’t think that is the cause, but I don’t want to = damage any orings.  What were the temps you were seeing when the orings were = damaged?

 

Bill

 


From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net= ] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, = 2012 10:18 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = High EGTs

 

Brian, 

 

I had high EGT's at one time. =  Turns out it was due to an overly restrictive muffler.  The high EGT's = damaged the o-rings resulting in an engine overhaul.  Could this possibly = be at the root of your high EGT readings?

 

Mark S.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM, = <bktrub@aol.com> wrote:

My engine is now running just the = way it should, temps were 180 or lower on a 75 degree day, but my EGTs have = always been high, really high- above 1800 almost all the time. I think it may = be a calibration issue. My egt sensors are about 3 inches downstream of the = exhaust ports, and I am using Tracy's EM2, calibrated at the stock settings. When the engine is stone cold, = the egt's read about 230 degrees, which I assume is normal because the sensors are = meant to operate at a much higher temperature. Any = thoughts?

 

Brian Trubee

 

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