X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTPS id 5320836 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:20:16 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@att.net X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,383,1320652800"; d="scan'208";a="609170116" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 20 Dec 2011 10:19:09 -0800 Received: from [10.62.16.167] (ernestc-laptop.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.167]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id pBKIJ6ub015799 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EF0D11A.7030901@att.net> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:16:58 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: off topic, propeller carving and paint References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Short answer: 1.7m diameter, with a 3.33m pitch. I'm using a 3.17 reduction gearset, with an "optimistic" output of 199Hp from the engine, and I was aiming for an aggressive cruise prop under the assumption that cutting off pieces is much easier than stapling them on 8*) Long answer: Look up JavaProp at http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/javaprop.htm You can download the app from his page, or just run it from the web. Enter the following: 2-blade 1730 RPM 1.7m diameter 0.16m spinner 75m/s velocity 141000 W of power square tip In the airfoils tab: MH126 at 6* MH112 at 2* MH114 at 2.5* E193 at 3.5* Go back to the Design tab and click "Design It!" at the bottom. On the Multi-Analysis tab, click "Analyze!" at the bottom. More numbers than a person knows what to do with. I am not delusional enough to think that this first example will be a perfect match. It will hopefully get me some good data on the upper limit of what my engine/airframe combination will handle; but, more than that, it is meant for me to iron out the construction process. The core is southern white pine (cheap, light, soft, and carves nicely), with a heavy layer of glass to carry the loads. Over the course of making this one, I've learned how to organize the milling to minimize the amount of cutting necessary, and how to get the cutter down a 6" hole. I had to switch the cutting head from a laminate router, to an electric die grinder. To rough it in, I was originally cutting a grid at 1" intervals and then chiseling away the "non-propeller" chunks. I'm now just cutting cross-wise slots at 6" intervals and chiseling off the excess. Makes a BIG difference when you're cutting head movement is limited to about 5"/min. Tracy wrote: > Only a glimpse of the full blade but it looked like one hell of a high > pitch on that thing. What are the figures on it? > > Tracy > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ernest Christley > wrote: > > Ed Anderson wrote: > > Impressive, Ernest, so when do you start producing Props for the list? > > > > Ed > > Started already. Did you see how slowly that cutting head was > moving? I don't think most of us here will be alive by > the time I'm ready to ship in quantity 8*) > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: > > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:18 AM > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] off topic, propeller carving and paint > > > >> Thought you guys might be interested in the video of how my propeller > >> carving is going: > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzViR2agLcY > >> > >> The other thing is that I have a work associate that is trying to > match > >> the paint from a F6F Hellcat. Does anyone know about matching > the paint > >> on old warbirds? > >> > >> -- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive and UnSub: > >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >