X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPS id 5306719 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:52:03 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=afm528@gmail.com Received: by faap14 with SMTP id p14so2511612faa.25 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=pUq2+F6ie4uEyCHsjx9qRnG/38nHitdBaJqQrmvAUdw=; b=KYHOkN6OnVo2zjZVHNp2eLksIHeEPULGJkqF+KkY9Y2cZPv244brgvn3gX+yI4D4Wj 4QmmBhcwpVWs1/+6RbC4QJA5a57TtNGZDnz9F1364aR41pSRka2FUAlWvr54XrACLNNq CD66lc7Wf3W9HlELa42nE2gryaVN3tJVzwKR4= Received: by 10.180.103.36 with SMTP id ft4mr8447095wib.59.1323985888644; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from MichaelHP (c-76-103-115-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [76.103.115.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fk3sm11456381wbb.10.2011.12.15.13.51.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:51:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael McMahon" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Contact! Refunds Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:51:39 -0800 Message-ID: <058201ccbb73$bbf3c510$33db4f30$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0583_01CCBB30.ADE397E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDZK8SEFmEixXdPjebRk8YPn5YdJZfEjuxA Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0583_01CCBB30.ADE397E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas, I'm sorry that it sounded like my message was addressed to you. In re-reading it I can see that you would read it that way and I apologize. I do understand that you did not request the refund. I meant my message to be supportive of Pat, but in no way disrespectful towards you. Please accept my apology. Happy Holidays, Mike From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Mann Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Contact! Refunds If you go back and read what Pat said more carefully, you will see that I never asked for a refund. I only asked for what I paid for and what was promised. Yes ........ there is a new issue coming soon ........ for the last 8 months. I could give a hoot about the subscription fee but to stand by and watch all the newbys get duped by the same scam and say nothing is just pathetic. If you think this is acceptable and right ........ well, enjoy the Kool-Aid. ....... as a side note ...... it's against the law. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael McMahon wrote: Times are tough for everyone, but not so bad that I feel the need to demand a refund from a fellow homebuilding enthusiast for such a small dollar amount. I've met Pat several times and I know his heart is in the right place. I suggest we cut a fellow enthusiast some slack. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Panzera Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:28 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Contact! Refunds We have always offered refunds to anyone who was displeased with our service. We offered it to you and you refused. But I sent it anyhow, plus interest, since you seem so upset. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Thomas Mann wrote: > Just so you all know, after a year of zero issues being published, Contact! > is beginning to offer refunds. > I don't see anything that would suggest a resumption of publication. > > It could really use some new blood if anyone were to be interested. > > This from Pat: > ______________________________________________________________________ > __________________ > Note from Contact! Magazine: > > Please accept this full refund plus interest. I'll be updating my > website offering refunds to anyone else who desires one and letting > potential subscribers know that we are indeed having difficulties. -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0583_01CCBB30.ADE397E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thomas,

 

I’m sorry that it sounded like my message was addressed to = you.  In re-reading it I can see that you would read it that way = and I apologize. I do understand that you did not request the = refund. 

 

I meant my message to be supportive of Pat, but in no way = disrespectful towards you.

 

Please accept my apology.

 

Happy Holidays,

 

Mike

 

From:= = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Thomas Mann
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 = 1:08 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Contact! Refunds

 

If you go = back and read what Pat said more carefully, you will see that I never = asked for a refund.

I only asked = for what I paid for and what was promised.

 

Yes ........ there is a new issue coming soon ........ = for the last 8 months.

 

I = could give a hoot about the subscription fee but to stand by and watch = all the newbys get duped by the same scam and say nothing is just = pathetic.

 

If you think this is acceptable and right ........ = well, enjoy the Kool-Aid.

 

....... as a side note ...... it's = against the law.

On Thu, Dec 15, = 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael McMahon <afm528@gmail.com> = wrote:

Times are tough for everyone, = but not so bad that I feel the need to demand
a refund from a fellow = homebuilding enthusiast for such a small dollar
amount.  I've = met Pat several times and I know his heart is in the right
place. =  I suggest we cut a fellow enthusiast some = slack.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors = in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Patrick Panzera
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 = 11:28 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Contact! Refunds

We have always offered refunds to anyone who was = displeased with our
service. We offered it to you and you refused. = But I sent it anyhow, plus
interest, since you seem so = upset.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Thomas Mann <thomasmann51@gmail.com>
= wrote:
> Just so you all know, after a year of zero issues being = published,
Contact!
> is beginning to offer refunds.
> I = don't see anything that would suggest a resumption of = publication.
>
> It could really use some new blood if = anyone were to be interested.
>
> This from Pat:
> = ______________________________________________________________________> __________________
> Note from Contact! = Magazine:
>
> Please accept this full refund plus interest. = I'll be updating my
> website offering refunds to anyone else who = desires one and letting
> potential subscribers know that we are = indeed having difficulties.

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