X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [64.129.170.194] (HELO VIRCOM1.fcdata.private) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5301926 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:57:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE (unverified [172.16.5.23]) by VIRCOM1.fcdata.private (Vircom SMTPRS 5.1.1024.13396) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:56:51 -0600 X-Modus-BlackList: 172.16.5.23=OK;cbarber@texasattorney.net=OK X-Modus-RBL: 172.16.5.23=Excluded X-Modus-Trusted: 172.16.5.23=NO X-Modus-Audit: FALSE;0;0;0 Received: from FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::809d:a06e:5913:452e]) by FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::697f:d6aa:b87:78d8%17]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:57:02 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale... Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale... Thread-Index: AQHMuRGSfmu5y7UnSU+yD5ILmVrMmZXYvtkS Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:56:22 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30C48A596D@FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [69.148.239.250] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30C48A596DFCDMAIL05FCDATA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30C48A596DFCDMAIL05FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, Tracy, you NEEEED an RV-9. Something to keep your head and heart in t= he rotary aviation community. It is an entire new challenge, and you are j= ust the man for it. Chris (no selfish hidden agenda here....naaaaah) Got scales, gonna try to start W&B ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Tracy [rwstracy@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale... I've been enjoying the takeoff, climb and slow-flight performance of my RV-= 8 with extended wings that it's got me thinking about extending the wings o= f my RV-4. With it's lower weight AND more wingspan it would be even more = STOL-like than the -8. Makes me think I would really like an RV-9 built w= ith a rotary. Tracy On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Tom Walter > wrote: Take Off with a Bearhawk is impressive. In Mark Goldberg's (N303AP) 0-540 fitted machine, we're up in 300' without = trying (admitted not loaded). Mark had dropped me off at home (40XS) one = time, and we had a 5 to 10 mph wind. He took off with his noise pointing in= to the wind. It caught him a little off guard, as he must have been climbin= g at 2000 fpm. At the end of the 3000 ft runway he was well over 2000 ft A= GL. I just don't picture an RV7 needing that much room to take off or land. So= if I RV7 doesn't have enough room, I really don't see a Bearhawk being via= ble. Tom ________________________________ From: Charlie England > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale... On 12/12/2011 09:14 AM, Ernest Christley wrote: > Ben Schneider wrote: >> Thank you Kelly. I don't know if it will or not. I suppose it will >> depend on the airframe I choose. I really like and believe in the >> rotary engine for aviation purposes, and would certainly use it if the >> airframe would handle the weight and HP. >> > What do you think of the BearHawk? I'd second that question. I got to see the prototype several years ago, & m= eet the designer. Impressive plane. But runway requirements might not be th= at much better than a 180-200 hp RV-7; RV's are actually quite good short f= ield a/c. Of course, the Bearhawk could take off in RV-7 distance with an R= V strapped to its belly. :-) It would be a good candidate for the rotary, if flown light. A buddy of Dav= e's in CA came to our Pumpkin Drop last month & told me he was building one= with a rotary. Bummer on the required change of plans.... Charlie -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.h= tml --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D30C48A596DFCDMAIL05FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, Tracy, you NEEEED an RV-9.  Something to ke= ep your head and heart in the rotary aviation community.  It is an&nbs= p;entire new challenge, and you are just the man for it.

 

Chris

(no selfish hidden agenda here....naaaaah)

Got scales, gonna try to start W&B<= /p>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Tracy [rwstracy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale...

I've been enjoying the takeoff, climb and slow-flight performance of m= y RV-8 with extended wings that it's got me thinking about extending the wi= ngs of my RV-4.  With it's lower weight AND more wingspan it would be = even more STOL-like than the -8.   Makes me think I would really like an RV-9 built with a rotary.  

Tracy

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Tom Walter <roundrockto= m@yahoo.com> wrote:
Take Off with a Bearhawk is impressive.

In Mark Goldberg's (N303AP) 0-540 fitted machine, we're up in 300' wit= hout trying (admitted not loaded).   Mark had dropped me off at h= ome (40XS) one time, and we had a 5 to 10 mph wind. He took off with his no= ise pointing into the wind. It caught him a little off guard, as he must have been climbing at 2000 fpm.  At th= e end of the 3000 ft runway he was well over 2000 ft AGL.

I just don't picture an RV7 needing that much room to take off or land= .  So if I RV7 doesn't have enough room, I really don't see a Bearhawk= being viable.

Tom





From: Charlie England <<= a href=3D"mailto:ceengland@bellsouth.net" target=3D"_blank">ceengland@bells= outh.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <fly= rotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, December 12, = 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV= 7 for sale...

On 12/12/2011 09:14 AM, Ernest Christley wrote:
> Ben Schneider wrote:
>> Thank you Kelly.  I don't know if it will or not. I suppose i= t will
>> depend on the airframe I choose. I really like and believe in the<= br> >> rotary engine for aviation purposes, and would certainly use it if= the
>> airframe would handle the weight and HP.
>>
> What do you think of the BearHawk?
I'd second that question. I got to see the prototype several years ago, &am= p; meet the designer. Impressive plane. But runway requirements might not b= e that much better than a 180-200 hp RV-7; RV's are actually quite good sho= rt field a/c. Of course, the Bearhawk could take off in RV-7 distance with an RV strapped to its belly. :-)

It would be a good candidate for the rotary, if flown light. A buddy of Dav= e's in CA came to our Pumpkin Drop last month & told me he was building= one with a rotary.

Bummer on the required change of plans....

Charlie


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