X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.192] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5301851 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:51:54 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.192; envelope-from=roundrocktom@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2011 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.12] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2011 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Dec 2011 20:51:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 764197.45872.bm@omp1012.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85752 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2011 20:51:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1323723077; bh=FV97FSuzRELfXMrheAozc/niFjtDD7bAgyOu3zFnRMU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JYWucaNcN2vxrRC+oiYJHQAg5Vr7JyI1ruHdfoX5Qxh3zv7w+GQg/CMoiXipM8RAf2biTb2lfEHRKAt70uxe+5ts2d6is37wcH0jDbtrVMLcPpRPpn0BwKeThqa5+zmoC7kiHRJMESaA5RR50vQDaDbKB4xWeMBrPceuv9eUl2U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6pcKWbb2sou25cm7DbWgmPvjNAuzQO0wUuMa+hpMZ9jXsnRcdqODRnzf72REubbNHSdIQvRuVKFDsIYnqvZ+m8Ig46EEJ/40KPFcvFwtcYFMPGgh2FKygA27egASNR9owJgvZiNABl3weshNurRgutyJGIERuFHBiq1GOFDgZwI=; X-YMail-OSG: SllkSHkVM1lmKrJm8QnVhVJ8PrNsNnPSU0U0ixuxtO5rAFV Ux2SbL3erJphQGSwP_Xbc4s957B..SBmj423IIc6V7lP6QuIiDcAsamxl._i M3f8H8gurfG_ZIzx3UssreuGtTSfH4CND2miVB5cvYAlJlAQpdZblQQa3Kak iJSxOGgAL40scMHDh2Qjo3EUjuQCUen96FFO0tCIjhlx_JUYrJzBsomaYaI5 cPV_pVU3CAvvYVhF6Yg6hj28reTqj6wgpBjAiKylGPqOIJFxnP1ZMfIMMboh F4Suur6dNM3Nor6vIIUZOp1VlIH3ujj13ujvMJoqZWaZRDD7UDIzaVnbU3xh j6A1G3LO7evDFpY2nYPWXaYIJp.7.x1zg5k9L5DL5OOwB7YQ7LNa7kP1sfr8 UxwwEFpArSSj8ekcSOHqL0m7michA50zOKPIosRurhjv9Cfoyxmq54oQVuXr XOOA4F8dEJiemR0cHst2tq.UdtTOfpZS3SGPrE.Ksp1nl59rg1CSCyfVPvst Oz.qI3rEjca9Gxp8s7ofSTtbQ1i0d.MxcIgA- Received: from [216.52.185.72] by web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:51:16 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: Message-ID: <1323723076.63756.YahooMailNeo@web111514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Walter Reply-To: Tom Walter Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale... To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1884257015-94132904-1323723076=:63756" ---1884257015-94132904-1323723076=:63756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take Off with a Bearhawk is impressive.=0A=0AIn Mark Goldberg's (N303AP) 0-= 540 fitted machine, we're up in 300' without trying (admitted not loaded).= =A0=A0 Mark had dropped me off at home (40XS) one time, and we had a 5 to 1= 0 mph wind. He took off with his noise pointing into the wind. It caught hi= m a little off guard, as he must have been climbing at 2000 fpm.=A0 At the = end of the 3000 ft runway he was well over 2000 ft AGL. =0A=0A=0AI just don= 't picture an RV7 needing that much room to take off or land.=A0 So if I RV= 7 doesn't have enough room, I really don't see a Bearhawk being viable.=0A= =0ATom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Charli= e England =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:35 PM=0ASubject= : [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sale...=0A =0AOn 12/12/2011 09:14 AM, Ernest Chri= stley wrote:=0A> Ben Schneider wrote:=0A>> Thank you Kelly.=A0 I don't kno= w if it will or not. I suppose it will=0A>> depend on the airframe I choose= . I really like and believe in the=0A>> rotary engine for aviation purposes= , and would certainly use it if the=0A>> airframe would handle the weight a= nd HP.=0A>> =0A> What do you think of the BearHawk?=0AI'd second that quest= ion. I got to see the prototype several years ago, & meet the designer. Imp= ressive plane. But runway requirements might not be that much better than a= 180-200 hp RV-7; RV's are actually quite good short field a/c. Of course, = the Bearhawk could take off in RV-7 distance with an RV strapped to its bel= ly. :-)=0A=0AIt would be a good candidate for the rotary, if flown light. A= buddy of Dave's in CA came to our Pumpkin Drop last month & told me he was= building one with a rotary.=0A=0ABummer on the required change of plans...= .=0A=0ACharlie=0A=0A=0A--=0AHomepage:=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/=0AArchiv= e and UnSub:=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ---1884257015-94132904-1323723076=:63756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Take= Off with a Bearhawk is impressive.

In Mark Goldbe= rg's (N303AP) 0-540 fitted machine, we're up in 300' without trying (admitt= ed not loaded).   Mark had dropped me off at home (40XS) one time= , and we had a 5 to 10 mph wind. He took off with his noise pointing into t= he wind. It caught him a little off guard, as he must have been climbing at= 2000 fpm.  At the end of the 3000 ft runway he was well over 2000 ft = AGL.

I just don't picture an RV7 needing that= much room to take off or land.  So if I RV7 doesn't have enough room,= I really don't see a Bearhawk being viable.

Tom





From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RV7 for sa= le...

=0AOn 12/12/2011 09:14 AM, Ernest Christley wrote:> Ben Schneider wrote:
>> Thank you Kelly.  I don't know= if it will or not. I suppose it will
>> depend on the airframe I = choose. I really like and believe in the
>> rotary engine for avia= tion purposes, and would certainly use it if the
>> airframe would= handle the weight and HP.
>>
> What do you think of the Be= arHawk?
I'd second that question. I got to see the prototype several yea= rs ago, & meet the designer. Impressive plane. But runway requirements = might not be that much better than a 180-200 hp RV-7; RV's are actually qui= te good short field a/c. Of course, the Bearhawk could take off in RV-7 dis= tance with an RV strapped to its belly. :-)

It would be a good candi= date for the rotary, if flown light. A buddy of Dave's in CA came to our Pu= mpkin Drop last month & told me he was building one with a rotary.
<= br>Bummer on the required change of plans....

Charlie


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