Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #57103
From: <CozyGirrrl@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Steve Brooks Cozy
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:29:55 -0500 (EST)
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Chris, not a slight against Velocities. Yes I have flown a Cozy, not a Velocity. Those that I have talked to that have -hours- in both say it is the difference between an MG and a SUV. Nothing wrong with SUV's. It is just a simple fact of the matter that the Cozy in a smaller plane, add weight to it and it does not perform like a well built lighter version of the same plane. Some Long-E guys have an obsession about weight to the point that they leave the interior surfaces raw, zolotone adds weight, they use minimal upholstery etc for fear it will be heavy and fly like a Cozy. There are 700 lb Long-ezs out there.
 
Chrissi & Randi
www.CozyGirrrl.com
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop
 
In a message dated 12/2/2011 10:59:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, cbarber@texasattorney.net writes:

Chrissi said.......

 

"It would be doable but then it would fly like a Velocity."

 

NICE.....real nice........

 

So?  Just how many of y'all out there have actually flown a VELOCITY and a Co-Z, Hmmmmmmm?

 

Of course I gotta fly mine to before I really comment.  I am preparing things to call a DAR though (keeping my fingers crossed)

 

Chris Barber

Houston

VELOCITY N17010


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of CozyGirrrl@aol.com [CozyGirrrl@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Steve Brooks Cozy

Set-in tanks would lose a lot of fuel space and add a lot of weight. Canard aircraft performance is directly related to weight, also the eight of everything as it moves away from the centerline adversely affects roll rate. It would be doable but then it would fly like a Velocity.
 
Chrissi & Randi
www.CozyGirrrl.com
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop
 
In a message dated 12/2/2011 9:51:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, echristley@att.net writes:
I reluctantly made a decision to not trust sealing a gas tank to any petrochemical that is shipped to me in a liquid
form.  You never know what all those petrochemical engineers in Congress will decide mandate to be put into our fuel
next.  So I welded a fuel tank and glassed that into the place that was designed for a fiberglass tank.  I would have
preferred buying a premade poly-ethylene or aluminum racing tank, but I couldn't find one that even came close to fitting.

Aren't the Cozy tanks just big cubes sitting inside the wing roots?  Would it be safer, and possibly easier, to buy a
tank, sit it in the, and glass it into place?


Bill Schertz wrote:
> There are two areas that may influence this.

> On my plane,
> 1.    I did the Jeffco coating, but when you glue the closeout piece in
> place, the seam is not covered, so I worried that that would be a point
> of attack.
> 2.    Another builder and I did a test, I coated samples of fiberglass
> with Jeffco and the structural epoxy, and he did an immersion test in
> gasoline with ethanol. The regular epoxy (Aeropoxy) flaked off rapidly,
> the Jeffco did not, however it DID swell, and gain weight, which
> indicated to me that it was letting some of the solvent through to the
> underlying epoxy, therefore I decided that I could not trust it with
> ethanol.

> Bill Schertz
> KIS Cruiser #4045
> N343BS
> Phase one testing Completed

> *From:* Steve Brooks <mailto:cozy4pilot@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:51 PM
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Steve Brooks Cozy

>
> Bill,
>
> Apparently I did get some Ethanol.  I had used the Jeffco sealant on the
> tanks - 3 coats, when I built it.  Supposedly it is impervious to most
> anything, but apparently that is either not correct, or I missed a
> pinhole somewhere.
>

>
> Steve
>

>
> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
> *On Behalf Of *Bill Schertz
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:18 AM
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Steve Brooks Cozy
>

>
> Steve,
>
> Were you running Auto fuel with Ethanol in your tanks?
>

>
> Bill Schertz
> KIS Cruiser #4045
> N343BS
> Phase one testing Completed
>

>
> *From:* Steve Brooks <mailto:cozy4pilot@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:29 AM
>
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Plane on Mythbusters
>

>
> Hi Kelly,
>
> Yeas, I've been quiet for a while, but still lurking.  It has been 2
> years since I last flew the Cozy.  I had an engine issue, and I had the
> plane in the garage for almost a year swapping the engine, and adding
> the EM3.  I ended up changing jobs and moving about an hour away, so I
> moved the plane back to the airport before I was quite ready, and then
> while tuning, I noticed that I had developed a leak in the left fuel tank.
>

>
> At this point I need to get the plane moved to my new house, so that I
> can open up the tank, and repair any damaged foam, and re-glass and
> paint it.  I should already have done it, but between work, and home
> projects,  I haven't taken the time.  I also need to arrange with a
> wrecker company or someone to move it.
>

>
> I did buy another plane though, a Socata Tampico, so that I could still
> do some flying.  The plan is to fix the Cozy, and then sell one of
> them.  I prefer to keep the Cozy, but the wife really like the Socata,
> so I'm not yet sure how that will work out.
>

>
> Steve Brooks
>


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