X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.221] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5265572 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:09:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.221; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2011 01:08:37 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2011 01:08:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2011 01:08:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 76303.70441.bm@omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 76568 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2011 01:08:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1322701716; bh=CDt0faU4HlpzSI3UybVnGq2dNSvppmAdYOEKF1dOZbs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cLHNPt9qcorBODrR6HoQ8FP5G9Qycpo+qP5r8cxoaC9T+Ox5OFuRfdoMYDoBpMkzkIDMjLC6qgFvSzQxCZzsurGKMMBXGP9uHvs4auoMuQf+yQILX416aVq1rucV0UqVrbMmu3oYEwiy5uR7WTxECnapu7knTJ1QKMPjHzsTw6k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: lyPFtoQVM1m0wJWJ3pOcoQ.RPk6FV86yTBZKyEpJD3AtBj1 CgnmQAbTodD1RnmpStMP_It39mbcAGzTk.A.0ttNkqComFMVzgLFbZFDfsZC O.l9H.o4ZkdwMJGQprzxO1Lw_5uzPSvPMfmBhLh1weIecDNwWCrAyJBdIqeA VIuYVHDBrmZf0jNFlMyNyVBEuyMQGmxJcNXUq.e2qjufkZcZvfPLS8ivk0UA GtaQW4S1dZmF4PlxVD6WUmU_._kBEFuPKfDnvhKePWduYgaFI0OJ.fxqvoNk sMZNLdGRzLKWl_LJyn1IweF4EmqTu5wAlWtg9LNShGe6yS.f1qcdx5XFfOUj yJVqO9m6oXCrmCHZ9cVueey.ZHPOVQZ6nWmX0ngZCQfN6hBsjy5sViN60Vgn T0Yb0VW43_YT48p281db.hPkpK.unrDAMKNtrpjvJC6r9qaDOK.W1EORAU.V JpmX.IW0aPN3hpenac1eWihcVpiTuj9M31g9VtMGt09yjeoOUoyZpXaWgv6P p767t8mtUUu7JAbcDsheX_7w9UoUj6jqfUKLZaem_lG1VZEpIm71gOT2UpOr OUmwzN7OVFPyZdYoRA1JxhA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: uXJ_6LOswBCr8InijhYErvjWlJuRkoKPGNeiuu7PA.5wcGoy Received: from [192.168.10.5] (ceengland@98.95.174.200 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2011 17:08:36 -0800 PST Message-ID: <4ED6D395.40604@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:08:37 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Conditional inspection for rotaries References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The concerns are legit. Maintenance (even Major Modifications) on a Homebuilt can be done by your pet monkey, as long as he can leave his mark in the a/c log. But the Condition Inspection can be signed off only by the holder of the Repairman's Certificate (issued only to the builder) or by someone holding at least an A&P ticket. I'd suggest finding someone with *only* an A&P (no IA) rating. There are a lot of guys out there that have A&P's that don't try to earn a living with them, so there's less (perceived) risk. If you can educate your local guy on what he's really signing off, then that would be better. He isn't signing off an Airworthiness Inspection; Homebuilts cannot be 'airworthy' as defined by FAA rules. The proper Condition Inspection statement simply says that the plane is in a condition for safe flight at the time he signs the log. If you can fly it with the alternative engine for most of a year prior to the next condition inspection, that might go a long way toward convincing him that it can be safe. You could buy a flying plane (assuming it's already got its airworthiness cert), install the alternative engine (major mod), notify the FAA & fly off the required 5 hours, & then you're good to go until the next condition inspection. Details vary slightly depending on when the Operating Limitations were issued, but that's about all there is to it. Charlie On 11/30/2011 04:42 PM, Scott Emery wrote: > As the engine 'manufacturer' wouldn't you do the condition inspection entry in the engine& prop logs? > I don't see a problem here... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:14 PM, William Wilson wrote: > >> I'm still looking at buying a rotary-powered Cozy (or buying a regular Cozy and putting a rotary in it). >> >> The builder of the plane I'm looking at has already agreed to do conditional inspections on it, but at some point that arrangement may no longer be possible and at that point the plane turns into a pumpkin unless an agreeable A&P/IA can be found to do the inspection. >> >> I've talked to my local Cozy expert (Burrall Sanders) and while he's happy to do conditional inspections in general, he's not willing to do one on an automotive engine conversion. Someday I might talk him into it, but not yet. >> >> Does anyone have any advice? I'm not particularly concerned about where, I'd be willing to go wherever is necessary. > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >