X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.111.79] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5207960 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:33:49 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.111.79; envelope-from=stol83001@live.com Received: from BLU158-W11 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:33:12 -0800 Message-ID: Return-Path: stol83001@live.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_46daebde-565c-410d-874b-519c3a7d6a56_" X-Originating-IP: [70.57.210.233] From: ben haas To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] FAA to charge for NOS Charts... Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:33:11 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2011 02:33:12.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA053E20:01CCA7F5] --_46daebde-565c-410d-874b-519c3a7d6a56_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah... I was something like 1730.... The 25=2C000 threshhold comments is a= n unrealistic number and the lobbiest who " suggested" that number knew dam= n well they would get their way and use the excuse the "whitehouse" miminum= was not met... Looks like the AOPA=2C EAA and any other GA labby group did= n't send enough cases of Scotch and good looking hookers to the commitee th= at determined that 25=2C000 minimum. And just when is the whitehouse = website used for policy making ? That and the fact you have to register to = even vote..... I am betting alot of folks got to that point and bailed beca= use of the idea they would then be in some data base held by the currect ad= min..... IMHO Ben Haas www.haaspowerair.com =20 To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net From: bbradburry@bellsouth.net Date: Sun=2C 20 Nov 2011 08:51:43 -0500 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] FAA to charge for NOS Charts... I was number 2090??!! =20 Bill B =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Chris Barber Sent: Friday=2C November 18=2C 2011 1:42 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [Bulk] [FlyRotary] FAA to charge for NOS Charts... =20 =20 The FAA has decided to start charging companies for use of previously free = NOS chart downloads and remove access for individuals starting April 5=2C 2= 012. It is suspected that this will have a noted impact of smaller compani= es that use this information and provides service to the consumer pilot (i.= e. I-Pad/I-Phone navigation=2C EFIS GPS etc) =20 If you don't know about this=2C you may wish to become informed. =20 http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2011/11/15/petition-launched-to-fight-fa= a-decision-to-charge-for-navigation-downloads/ =20 and=20 =20 http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-11-16_charts.asp =20 There is a petition on the White House website to have the policy reviewed.= 25=2C000 sigs are needed by DECEMBER 14=2C 2011 (currently only about 120= 0...I was 1278).=20 =20 To sign the petition=2C click here =20 https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/ask-faa-reversal-charge-= government-approach-data-downloads-and-not-allowing-individuals-access-them= /Hg1nqTJy?utm_source=3Dwh.gov&utm_medium=3Dshorturl&utm_campaign=3Dshorturl =20 Chris Barber = --_46daebde-565c-410d-874b-519c3a7d6a56_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah... I was something like 1730.... The 25=2C000 threshhold comments is a= n unrealistic number and the lobbiest who " suggested" that number knew dam= n well they would get their way and use the excuse the "whitehouse" miminum= was not met... Looks like the AOPA=2C EAA and any other GA labby group did= n't send enough cases of Scotch and good looking hookers to the commitee th= at determined that 25=2C000 minimum. <=3BG>=3B =3B  =3BAnd just= when is the whitehouse website used for policy making ? That and the fact = you have to register to even vote..... I am betting alot of folks got to th= at point and bailed because of the idea they would then be in some data bas= e held by the currect admin..... =3B IMHO

Ben Haa= s
www.haaspowerair.com

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To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
From: bbradburry@bellsouth.net
Date: = Sun=2C 20 Nov 2011 08:51:43 -0500
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Bulk] [FlyRo= tary] FAA to charge for NOS Charts...

I was number 209= 0??!!

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Bill B

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t] On Behalf Of Chris Barbe= r
Sent: Friday=2C Novemb= er 18=2C 2011 1:42 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject= : [Bulk] [FlyRotary] FAA to charge for NOS Charts...

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The FAA has = decided to start charging companies for use of previously free =3BNOS c= hart downloads and remove access for individuals =3Bstarting April 5=2C= 2012. =3B It is suspected that this will have a noted impact of smalle= r companies that use this information and provides service to the consumer = pilot (i.e. =3BI-Pad/I-Phone navigation=2C =3BEFIS GPS etc)<= /FONT>

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If you don't=  =3Bknow about this=2C you may wish to become informed.

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There is a p= etition on the White House website to have the policy reviewed. =3B 25= =2C000 sigs are needed by DECEMBER 14=2C 2011 (currently only about 1200...= I was 1278).

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To sign the = petition=2C click here

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Chris Barber=

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