X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5206001 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:45:26 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.136; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2011 01:44:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.57] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2011 01:44:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2011 01:44:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1321667092; bh=Tz7gSZ62n5CTlbKoddzMBzcOeZ0AUTKRXrB7pkrFUHA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=LtQkKJfUDC261PeIWpu5zKJyyzyGJqWcqBpwaGG5OZW9bRnUgPKbUVWr9nhovIHZ4azpOFkWT3wZu3iGP2MovM9trLScpolHZbJLUZq1pie/gaeLhX27UWMbL7cDkdRE2ywaZhaqJpT6MaHZ0jVgR2g2qfSl5llxgTU9bCCpl8c= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 847613.88977.bm@smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KMQuZrUVM1ngZA6MdSyhcEyr9tFpNzJ9vFRqx8Vxenb8DUf PmiqcrGEKW1pS6_u_To.XZgvPaUVqcXA.oA2HLGeVF1tpXXOlNZQ_MKk7qHP bHZXOCnPk1wgGL_KRBoSuz.bU2dodycFB0MNNivQ8OXzlw88fXOQD0kQNWvI vS4e.A72zse0GDHTUf8eaA1EZ64woDk.qDfxFBobDbuLFZE3n85gsq4HuTwy m9kkVEaK4SfVrkhFvl.1U0eCAW3mySDhIHvmzGf.s7kiaVKfA0p_MxEzFmj3 7nz_g5rJlWIE2Lr1TcMHReB2sDld2WPMuF.KkTnU6bR6T3jA2lRr0OXFG335 35IbOhou1sh5CYR6iLerofrF4lkMkKsyYnkNsekiENcSeJNtDzhpfIGwGsps jsVVTTb30b85.ikWUrK8tEvQ2ySOdohaKRow.bU8iv1a.bT42N4KFSVF.F3e lI74yWsd72PFOWaM_fGgoH512fkSRU91AVJdyk7AY3QCKsd4Ck9OTaAZ4n0L h3TLg2PDirgAMx.pJ8000_CHKLLcxrK6UOEaHVOYujNKqItplLXkqwQroAAU JSagPTkL9NDD1sS5UlgWhFcmNdA.clnq35JUFAnKZABe5Yq5hcpF0Z6RxjGA fUmqMOKOSjd6PYm.6RftiowEPcO2CypgnMQvfnziMmsDpXy63uEIsysmAmfp wClGJRt.8rbDd8bji3glTyvujjIu.IiS_m5Sq5EDSkyFwpX4kzF4DrVEqeIw Crhvzxsz0iBQEMUTsxFWLEgR4TNogh9RiJEELU1qMvsTExTRDAA1M4UX6AsM DaeejGzeLNSR8X8Gv1wEb8r5JgC2xMa_jts1avY7yU7cxzfGo6sm8GcK1nms 8rlA0oXIvuMT5Gs.AxKE8QXIfhBzqax4ckCdzkZp_S97PemWRJjFteV7wOqM dXwwgmsZE3YQDwS8wPcmpN6_epG5vbBy831QZiKurnTxyI1lJNbZgi9pGESd RbItooGEcI4yH.tk4NUBLsI0Xrge.a60bTQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: uXJ_6LOswBCr8InijhYErvjWlJuRkoKPGNeiuu7PA.5wcGoy Received: from [192.168.10.5] (ceengland@98.95.174.200 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2011 17:44:52 -0800 PST Message-ID: <4EC70A16.90905@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:44:54 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FAA to charge for NOS Charts... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090601040605070504030707" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090601040605070504030707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's already up on the VAF forum, but when I tried to get to the signature pages, I couldn't get past a '404 error'. I'll be trying again tonight. On 11/18/2011 03:50 PM, Chad Robinson wrote: > 1733. > > But still, if you want this to get 25k signatures in 4 weeks, it needs > a bigger audience. Like... Vans? > > On 11/18/2011 3:09 PM, David Moyer wrote: >> I was 1,700! >> David Moyer >> Remcon Associates, LLC >> Tel: 281-360-2158 >> Fax: 281-360-2168 >> Cell: 281-795-2712 >> >> On 11/18/2011 12:41 PM, Chris Barber wrote: >>> The FAA has decided to start charging companies for use of >>> previously free NOS chart downloads and remove access for >>> individuals starting April 5, 2012. It is suspected that this will >>> have a noted impact of smaller companies that use this information >>> and provides service to the consumer pilot (i.e. I-Pad/I-Phone >>> navigation, EFIS GPS etc) >>> If you don't know about this, you may wish to become informed. >>> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2011/11/15/petition-launched-to-fight-faa-decision-to-charge-for-navigation-downloads/ >>> and >>> http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-11-16_charts.asp >>> There is a petition on the White House website to have the policy >>> reviewed. 25,000 sigs are needed by DECEMBER 14, 2011 (currently >>> only about 1200...I was 1278). >>> To sign the petition, click here >>> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/ask-faa-reversal-charge-government-approach-data-downloads-and-not-allowing-individuals-access-them/Hg1nqTJy?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl >>> >>> Chris Barber > --------------090601040605070504030707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's already up on the VAF forum, but when I tried to get to the signature pages, I couldn't get past a '404 error'. I'll be trying again tonight.

On 11/18/2011 03:50 PM, Chad Robinson wrote:
1733.

But still, if you want this to get 25k signatures in 4 weeks, it needs a bigger audience. Like... Vans?

On 11/18/2011 3:09 PM, David Moyer wrote:
I was 1,700!
David Moyer
Remcon Associates, LLC
Tel: 281-360-2158
Fax: 281-360-2168
Cell: 281-795-2712

On 11/18/2011 12:41 PM, Chris Barber wrote:
 
The FAA has decided to start charging companies for use of previously free NOS chart downloads and remove access for individuals starting April 5, 2012.  It is suspected that this will have a noted impact of smaller companies that use this information and provides service to the consumer pilot (i.e. I-Pad/I-Phone navigation, EFIS GPS etc)
 
If you don't know about this, you may wish to become informed.
 
 
and
 
 
There is a petition on the White House website to have the policy reviewed.  25,000 sigs are needed by DECEMBER 14, 2011 (currently only about 1200...I was 1278).
 
To sign the petition, click here
 
 
Chris Barber


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