Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2971319 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:20:15 -0500 Received: from ispwest.com (unverified [216.52.245.25]) by ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.0.282) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:20:12 -0800 Message-ID: <2c5c99f6ca49489f80e065112d4b7152.Wschertz@ispwest.com> X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 1, 0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Bill Schertz" To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Linear Position Transducer? Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:20:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why not a simple (regular rotational) potentiometer=2E Put a disk on th= e=20 shaft that is the circumference of the max travel that you need, wrap a stri= ng=20 around the disk, attached at each end to the manifold parts, and then moveme= nt=20 of the manifold will cause the shaft of the pot to rotate, and the rota= tion=20 will be constrained to less than 1 revolution=2E
 
Bill Schertz
 
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 [FlyRota] Re: Linear Posit= ion=20 Transducer? Message 35 of 35 =20
 From:   Finn = Lassen=20 Add Contact
 Sent:   2/2/2004 11:09:26 AM=20=
 To:   flyrotary@lancaironline=2Enet
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 Subject:   [Fly= Rotary]=20 Re: Linear Position Transducer?
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Actually, giving it another thought, the cheapest and easiest,wou= ld=20 probably be to use the innards of an old mouse=2E
Wrap a spring-loa= ded=20 string (waxed?) several turns around the shaft of one of those small=20= wheels in the mouse=2E Remember the frequency indicators on real old r= adios?=20 (In this case it will be the string moving the axle, not the axle movi= ng=20 the string)=2E

Hook up a scope to the mouse: pin 5 is ground=2E= Pin 2=20 or 3 is output, and one of the other pins supply the power=2E
Exami= ne the=20 output=2E
Your circuit will have to be designed to remember the las= t=20 position before power-down, or you can simply move the manifold to an=20= end-stop and reset the position counter=2E

Finn

Finn Las= sen=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Ed,

This is off-the-wall, but what is used in the $20 electro= nic=20 dial calibers? Maybe it's possible to pick up the signals to the LCD=20= segements=2E=2E=2E I told you it was off the wall=2E

Now, you= can make=20 your own:
Need a strip of binary tape: one strip is black 1/2 the=20= length white the rest, the second stripe is black-white-black-white,= the=20 third twice as many black-whites, etc=2E down to the resolution you = want=2E=20 Then a number of led/photo-transistors pickups that can read the=20 stripes=2E

The easier way is of course just one stripe and y= our=20 circuit just counts the changes as the stripe passes through the=20 led/photo-transistors reader - but requires the circuit remembers th= e=20 current position=2E Also some way to determine direction=2E

T= ake=20 apart an old mouse and see how that works=2E

There must be 10= 's of=20 ways to do this=2E

Finn

Ed Anderson wrote:
Hi Guys,
 
    I am finishing= up the=20 design and fabrication of my variable length EDDIE intake and need=20= some assistance=2E  I want to use a voltmeter (or LEDs) to in= dicate=20 the postion of the manifold=2E  The simplist approach would a= ppear=20 to have a linear resistor attached such that its arm is moved as t= he=20 manifold moves thereby changing the resistance indicating=20 distance=2E 
 
I've done a lot of Web surfing an= d found=20 a number of linear postion potentiometers=2E  The problem is = they=20 cost more than I have invested in the manifold=2E  Regular au= dio=20 linear potentiometers do not have the mechanical range I need=2E&n= bsp; I=20 need a position indictor that has at least 5 1/2 - 6" of travel=2E=  =20 Anyone have any ideal where something reasonably priced might be=20= found=2E 
 
 If you know of a retail cat= alog=20 that have such things I'd appreciate a pointer=2E  I can find=20= plenty of Linear Postion Potentiometers - but they cost in the=20 hunderds of $$=2E  Need something much cheaper=2E 
 
I know I could devise a 3:1 lever= ratio=20 or some such thing and use one of the cheap (but mechanically rang= e=20 restricted) linear potentiometers for audio circuits, but would ra= ther=20 not=2E
=20
 
Thanks
 
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotar= y=20 Powered
Matthews,=20 NC
------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not a simple (regular rotational) potentiometer=2E Put a disk on the sha= ft that is the circumference of the max travel that you need, wrap a string around t= he disk, attached at each end to the manifold parts, and then movement of the manifol= d will cause the shaft of the pot to rotate, and the rotation will be constrained to less= than 1 revolution=2E Bill Schertz [FlyRota] Re: Linear Position Transducer? Me= ssage 35 of 35=20 From: Finn Lassen [JavaScript:AddFromContact();]Add Contact=20 Sent: 2/2/2004 11:09:26 AM=20 [Javascript:OpenRcptList('TO');]To: flyrotary@lancaironline=2Enet=20 Cc: =20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Linear Position Transducer?=20 Attachments: =20 Actually, giving it another thought, the cheapest and easiest,would probably= be to use the innards of an old mouse=2E Wrap a spring-loaded string (waxed?) several turns around the shaft of one o= f those small wheels in the mouse=2E Remember the frequency indicators on real old r= adios? (In this case it will be the string moving the axle, not the axle moving the= string)=2E Hook up a scope to the mouse: pin 5 is ground=2E Pin 2 or 3 is output, and o= ne of the other pins supply the power=2E Examine the output=2E Your circuit will have to be designed to remember the last position before p= ower-down, or you can simply move the manifold to an end-stop and reset the position co= unter=2E Finn Finn Lassen wrote: Hi Ed, This is off-the-wall, but what is used in the $20 electronic dial calibers? = Maybe it's possible to pick up the signals to the LCD segements=2E=2E=2E I told yo= u it was off the wall=2E Now, you can make your own: Need a strip of binary tape: one strip is black 1/2 the length white the res= t, the second stripe is black-white-black-white, the third twice as many black-whit= es, etc=2E down to the resolution you want=2E Then a number of led/photo-transis= tors pickups that can read the stripes=2E=20 The easier way is of course just one stripe and your circuit just counts the= changes as the stripe passes through the led/photo-transistors reader - but requires= the circuit remembers the current position=2E Also some way to determine directi= on=2E Take apart an old mouse and see how that works=2E There must be 10's of ways to do this=2E Finn Ed Anderson wrote: Hi Guys, I am finishing up the design and fabrication of my variable len= gth EDDIE intake and need some assistance=2E I want to use a voltmeter (or LEDs= ) to indicate the postion of the manifold=2E The simplist approach would appear to have a= linear resistor attached such that its arm is moved as the manifold moves thereby c= hanging the resistance indicating distance=2E I've done a lot of Web surfing and f= ound a number of linear postion potentiometers=2E The problem is they cost more th= an I have invested in the manifold=2E Regular audio linear potentiometers do not have= the mechanical range I need=2E I need a position indictor that has at least 5 1/2 - 6" of = travel=2E=20 Anyone have any ideal where something reasonably priced might be found=2E = If you know of a retail catalog that have such things I'd appreciate a pointer=2E = I can find plenty of Linear Postion Potentiometers - but they cost in the hunderds= of $$=2E Need something much cheaper=2E I know I could devise a 3:1 lever ra= tio or some such thing and use one of the cheap (but mechanically range restricted) line= ar potentiometers for audio circuits, but would rather not=2E Thanks Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC=20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8--