X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm17-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.236.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4988502 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 May 2011 08:54:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.236.21; envelope-from=echristley@att.net Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2011 12:54:04 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.120] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2011 12:54:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2011 12:54:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 29261.17689.bm@omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 88225 invoked from network); 19 May 2011 12:54:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1305809643; bh=+6rK5ZbM9qh5E0Cg265rlsGOsLZVWTFdrpcbBtE5nrg=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=uRXoirqi4IXmaasGSsS3kK8ip8aCGYJfr9oygGo7eFWYON6sLApXuvDkGOiHjTQ2UBL41I5/T/rhCSWvXoPUqbZyAphnn5aNX2NjIwmgdGWLIgTEX3nplgYMSTvH24u+31atwhPRLtvkI3racoubDzWYzjjwCqAd07Q+qGdcXZk= Received: from [192.168.1.2] (echristley@65.190.53.180 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2011 05:54:02 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 40RP3pGswBDvPav1a.I8eMv.KS8bdgWBnCloVoKaow-- X-YMail-OSG: YVcwsfEVM1l4LgURQ5s0mDxuNzixtCRYHxnOE.Rk_UK88DT PTqL.vm.UtqtoEY0ipFywyhjXAU87cqySwIixbowZ3tFm8UlGCvjEPsEmsdh _oZgiCPAhiu3Yj8KR5LC1b87OUE7ERVvnYlpANT6PTBVGQfMnIrGnFh6FDc3 GXaSwA9ToWjQ8NM8iEhWefdxNaN5ImSdK2X1FM6Y2EIR6_CVbHG9SkVfo5Yp ZXzIE8q3qDfVs0JnQSE4HquDbuoLD5r792sYh.R3BWHe941oeENAWm1mXcMI QxFZ4Iksq0mRpLH4BvumzSxneHuGx6CUtyN6gi4hU1IW12Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DD512E2.4070401@att.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:53:54 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Overheating single rotor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040009040802090409090403" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040009040802090409090403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 05/18/2011 10:33 PM, Richard Sohn wrote: > * Some time ago I disassembled my test engine and discovered what > looked like local over heating. It appears to have been the result of > my own ignorance.* Richard, if we knew all the stuff we don't know before-hand, it wouldn't be any fun, would it? 8*) > *It appeared to me that the reason for the local overheating must be > somewhere in the coolant flow. I think, someone on the other e-mail > group pointed to that possibility. * > *What it boils down to is the fact that not all the cooling pockets in > the rotor housing are open to coolant flow. In particular, the second > opening on the inlet side is totally blocked off by the side housings. > I left it open, and worsening the situation, there is a comparatively > large hole in the rotor housing web. As a result, most of the coolant > did go through this opening, and not through the area around the > plugs. If I had looked close at the flow pattern from MAZDA this > problem could have been avoided. * > ** > *Fortunately, there is no permanent damage to the engine, and the > engine in the airplane has not run yet. I fixed the problem by closing > off the opening. The engine is now going back to the test stand for > another 10+ hrs of beating. * > ** And the aforementioned unknown unknown is now a known known. --------------040009040802090409090403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 05/18/2011 10:33 PM, Richard Sohn wrote:
 Some time ago I disassembled my test engine and discovered what looked like local over heating. It appears to have been the result of my own ignorance.

Richard, if we knew all the stuff we don't know before-hand, it wouldn't be any fun, would it?  8*)

It appeared to me that the reason for the local overheating must be somewhere in the coolant flow. I think, someone on the other e-mail group pointed to that possibility.
What it boils down to is the fact that not all the cooling pockets in the rotor housing are open to coolant flow. In particular, the second opening on the inlet side is totally blocked off by the side housings. I left it open, and worsening the situation, there is a comparatively large hole in the rotor housing web. As a result, most of the coolant did go through this opening, and not through the area around the plugs. If I had looked close at the flow pattern from MAZDA this problem could have been avoided.
 
Fortunately, there is no permanent damage to the engine, and the engine in the airplane has not run yet. I fixed the problem by closing off the opening. The engine is now going back to the test stand for another 10+ hrs of beating.


And the aforementioned unknown unknown is now a known known.
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