X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4983657 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 May 2011 14:09:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.40; envelope-from=wrjjrs@aol.com Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p4EI8cg1028354 for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 14:08:38 -0400 Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (56.sub-174-253-245.myvzw.com [174.253.245.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0B7A4E000112 for ; Sat, 14 May 2011 14:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "wrjjrs@aol.com" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 11:08:50 -0700 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California X-Priority: 3 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-BG1eWUqfZ-g6h69r" x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:485692416:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 2 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29034dcec5223047 X-AOL-IP: 174.253.245.56 --Motorola-A-Mail-BG1eWUqfZ-g6h69r Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, The real problem is that using ethanol to begin with is junk science. All a oxygenate in your fuel does is make you get poorer mileage. All modern fi cars richen the mixture automatically until the O2 sensor says nada. If can cost a full 1-2 mpg. Bill Jepson Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Michael McMahon To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 22:25:09 GMT+00:00 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California Wouldn't it be cool if you had a choice of ethanol-enhanced and non-ethanol at gas stations? They could charge more for non-ethanol if you like, but reserve at least one pump per station for non-ethanol gas. Would that be difficult? Perhaps it could even be done on a station by station basis, just through personal contact, at least starting with the independent station owners. mike From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:35 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: 100LL in California Bill, You could be right on that. It surely won't hurt to put a little pressure on the FAA to find/approve an alternative aviation fuel. Personally, I would be happy if they would make premium auto fuel ethanol free. On another note, with the time it takes for things to work their way through the court system, it will be years before this gets resolved. The oil companies can afford to hire the best attorneys. Mark S. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: This may not be all bad. It could cause Swift fuel and that stuff GAMI is making to be approved. Swift fuel costs about $2/gal and will not go up and down in price like Avgas. You could pay more for it since it is about 8% more fuel efficient. 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