X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-iy0-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTPS id 4983079 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 May 2011 19:02:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=fluffysheap@gmail.com Received: by iyf40 with SMTP id 40so4873502iyf.25 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eGF3c+RKDIWKtRuaJCanp2evb5IiSmIOnP1on58jA/E=; b=nt0ja5w/hMqOfkXLcmRHBNCLVIX4PAc158h+YoNpeCYVhq3IVXcmmT46/uLFfrKHm3 gy3xzGQKOOJjyUSYJQQBX4kmqOOmjtaJpmzDk+75OX3/z5lWQVZ2N9vLMBtGYxUrq/0r fUVoOQVej6PxyblN7hMY4UczmNldAsPWgnPR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fWM/w03WYZAQKb+JQX41mYtzftDz1tXjlN3SCFZT8TZiwcpn8fy+6VIJArrqAK+v9U NYlShg1hLldugAOOZgZJKTinphVuxcv6l64lFLWH3S5rx1jINdjIhJTrN3EiPfdQrf/H eozpGDUWd+LmFuRAumQBYlIFtRik4odnG5aoc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.117.7 with SMTP id o7mr1549993ibq.46.1305327727555; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.172.83 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 16:02:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:02:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Gasoline with 10% ethanol From: William Wilson To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045015a6b8433ef04a3304beb --005045015a6b8433ef04a3304beb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As has been mentioned occasionally, this is not a good idea. The gasoline without ethanol will have a much lower octane rating and may suffer other combustion-related problems. You'll also likely end up with some of the water remaining behind. I don't want ethanol in my gas, but I'd rather have ethanol in it than water! On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jim Brewer wrote: > Guys, > Think about this: EAA Test for Ethanol > > HOW TO USE THE TESTER: > > 1. Add water precisely to zero level line on percentage alcohol scale on > side of tester. > 2. Add fuel to be tested up to the gas level line. > 3. Cap with thumb or stopper provided, shake vigorously to thoroughly > mix. > 4. Let stand 5-10 minutes, read percentage alcohol-in-fuel on scale of > 0-30% at line separating gasoline and water. > 5. The gauge on the side of the tube will read percentage of alcohol in > the tube. > > The way this test works is that you add an excess of water to the fuel and > the alcohol migrates into the water, thus separating from the gasoline > fraction. 5 gal = 18,927 ml and 10% of that would be 1,892.7 ml of alcohol > or slightly less than 2 liters. Rather than going to Nevada why not use > local gasoline and separate out the ethanol portion, filter the gasoline > through a filter that would remove any remaining ethanol and use the > gasoline in the aircraft. Agitation and decanting of the gasoline off of > the water portion should be easy to do. At $4.00 a gallon here on the east > coast it would be a 40 cent loss over the pump price but would be cheaper > than 100 LL. Do in 50 gallon batches as drums are readily available. > (Flame suit on) > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --005045015a6b8433ef04a3304beb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As has been mentioned occasionally, this is not a good idea.=A0 The gasolin= e without ethanol will have a much lower octane rating and may suffer other= combustion-related problems. You'll also likely end up with some of th= e water remaining behind.

I don't want ethanol in my gas, but I'd rather have ethanol in = it than water!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:= 02 PM, Jim Brewer <alpha@concordnc.com> wrote:
Guys,
Think about this: EAA Test for Ethanol

HOW TO USE THE TESTER:

=A0 1. Add water precisely to zero level line on percentage alcohol scale = on side of tester.
=A0 2. Add fuel to be tested up to the gas level line.
=A0 3. Cap with thumb or stopper provided, shake vigorously to thoroughly = mix.
=A0 4. Let stand 5-10 minutes, read percentage alcohol-in-fuel on scale of= 0-30% at line separating gasoline and water.
=A0 5. The gauge on the side of the tube will read percentage of alcohol i= n the tube.

The way this test works is that you add an excess of water to the fuel and = the alcohol migrates into the water, thus separating from the gasoline frac= tion. =A05 gal =3D 18,927 ml and 10% of that would be 1,892.7 ml of alcohol= or slightly less than 2 liters. =A0Rather than going to Nevada why not use= local gasoline and separate out the ethanol portion, filter the gasoline t= hrough a filter that would remove any remaining ethanol and use the gasolin= e in the aircraft. =A0Agitation and decanting of the gasoline off of the wa= ter portion should be easy to do. =A0At $4.00 a gallon here on the east coa= st it would be a 40 cent loss over the pump price but would be cheaper than= 100 LL. =A0Do in 50 gallon batches as drums are readily available. =A0 (Fl= ame suit on)

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