Return-Path: Received: from mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2946868 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:57:56 -0500 Received: from ppp-0-236.edin-b-1.access.uk.tiscali.com ([80.225.143.236]:3026 helo=nscvsy6kod72n8) by mk-smarthost-9.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AkPDw-000GCl-A4 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:57:24 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c3e28a$74ac9ee0$ec8fe150@nscvsy6kod72n8> From: "Tony Dolby" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Torsionals Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:57:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 From: "Marvin Kaye" > the firing pulses are simply the "exciters"... >Think about a guitar or piano string... >The single rotor e-shaft is a little stubby > thing, with much more torsional rigidity than that of a 2-rotor. Ergo, its > resonant torsional frequency is probably considerably higher than the > 2-rotor's. Further, if you consider the resonance of the total system, if any > one component has a higher resonant frequency then the total system's > resonance goes up with it. (Much snipping..) Ah yes, thanks Marv. I can picture the two shafts side by side but made into tuning forks, the frequency difference becomes obvious. I was thinking of the firing frequency rather than the "ringing" frequency of the shaft. > Think about the discussion here to date... if the > drive coupling (one component) is tight and stiff, the system's resonant freq > is raised. Loosen up or soften that coupling, and the system's resonant freq > is lowered, which, as Tracy has so eloquently explained, is the reason that > his drive system works so well. Being a well read Tracyphile I wouldn't think of rocking the boat but I thought I understood that the torsional had to be sort of "let out" or allowed to move and not connected solidly to anything, vis a vis the dyno shaft blow up in Tracy's writings. Otherwise, by George, I think I've got it! Great Info, Thanks, Tony