X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.116] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with SMTP id 4967200 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 May 2011 20:24:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.116; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 00:24:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.76] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 00:24:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 00:24:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 4425.96041.bm@omp1013.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 98816 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2011 00:24:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1304555060; bh=7bd7QK4cSolvzejXJCX33fYdJURmIcA1qPMpDMuubA8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lOx8KrFkAIE7Diq0J686Z+0SWJqHa2vHu+EeeF8g9krKUalBqke7WJPklqki8aAj6i42R77JZRqC7jC1WZLRZAiFGiz9WukWIuaZZQwqyJafD9Njh4Cmf03ne5hBVGpQEO0wD2s1+TSjsnkq3PhA8iN6W26CvgZZx36/AV/4QqQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mXn1Ll+T/ugFOGpcDsH9PTEUuusj1MfMjZe3MwBPpl0ejMAFZVI4nQAJ0eGcTUD8TLBrFeQZwb3DpYgLE7rnMwNwxfeHLhJ+9mNt8wIvnlqL8zGQLDuZEu8luDDlzzRQGFwB8u44ksy/gfSK4cDt54vjLC/rnwCd93sn5VADZyw=; Message-ID: <717531.52210.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0neG5VsVM1nk9a3EBHK8geCRIBkwdQVSQX1ujlzH_vMZzHT wWsO2kj0b0GseFlydBgaPxNXJesKsHxntrTMBihk0UaFZEDHP6X.LNQAKdBL MAIXZoKgh4blje9ZD_h73B_CzFxflOrFuUJ6sjnsRYffYoa7Rtdvjemuwgjv 4rc9WcntI544.cEJVWm8rlv8ljMJqRQSSAClCXn5rNa6tfHoam2SRXeo683. MglZcTcdKrLBInqI52dSGVdufGbkZgZ6WxIC3EDBSzI7edPrJemwqUAA9x6q uw5V0DGyN8oGcJhIOZMFjL3dRQEvK6d8bK4j8e2j2ktNoI4CfeNyQ6LyALC6 dw79i9eVd0.BMqLEK Received: from [208.114.43.64] by web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2011 17:24:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:24:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: water pump housing To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-228220858-1304555060=:52210" --0-228220858-1304555060=:52210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark.......... Again appreciate the info and opinion from someone wh= o=0Ahas actually=A0been there and=A0done=A0it=A0...............=0A=A0=0AKel= ly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD= 1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Mark Steitle =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Wed, May 4, 2011 1:13:40 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump= housing=0A=0A=0AKelly, =0A=0AI wasn't going to go there, but since you men= tioned it, here goes.=A0 I wanted to =0Ago with the Renesis CAS, so needed = a CAS timing wheel.=A0 I bought this new, and =0Ain order to get=A0a=A0CAS = timing=A0wheel, I had to buy the entire hub/pulley/wheel =0Aassy.=A0 I figu= red why not go with the Renesis WP also, which is what I did.=A0 The =0ARen= esis pulley is different and would have=A0messed up=A0the eccentric end-pla= y =0Asetting if not modified.=A0 So, lots of careful measuring later, I vis= ited my =0Amachinist friend and made the necessary mods to the Renesis hub.= =A0 Also, made a =0Athin precision=A0spacer.=A0 When all was done, the hub = was installed on the 20b, but =0Awithout the Renesis front cover.=A0 I coul= d not see any benefit to using the lower =0Aportion of the Renesis front co= ver, so I cut off the WP and threw the rest =0Aaway.=A0=A0=0A=0AI messed ar= ound for 2 years=A0trying to get the=A0Renesis CAS to work with the EC-2 = =0Aand finally gave up and reinstalled the original 20B CAS, which is what = I'm =0Acurrently using.=A0 (It is working well now.)=A0 However, I never re= moved the =0ARenesis hub, so I don't know what=A0would be=A0necessary to ge= t the pulleys to line =0Aup with the stock 20B hub.=A0 Someone else will ha= ve to go down that road.=A0 For =0Anow mine is running good,=A0cooling well= , and I'm not going to touch anything for =0Aa long time.=A0=A0=0A=0AMark= =A0 =0A=0A=0AOn Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Kelly Troyer = wrote:=0A=0AMark,=0A>=0A>=A0=A0 Thanks for the=A0"Real World Info".........= .......I was fairly confident the =0A>Renesis front cover could be=0A>bolte= d to the 13BREW and Cosmo 13B/20B but I was not aware of the counterweight = =0A>interference=0A>on the 20B not having seen=A0inside one...............T= his is the kind of =0A>information this group is famous=0A>for.............= The sharing of knowledge to help each other over the hurdles of =0A>adaptin= g the Rotarys=0A>for aircraft use.............One reason I suggested the us= e of the complete =0A>Renesis front cover was to=0A>allow the use of the st= ock eccentric hub/trigger wheel/pulleys without the need =0A>for any spacer= s to=0A>align the pump,alternator and=A0eccentric pulleys.................T= he Renesis =0A>front cover is approx 1 inch=0A>shorter from gasket surface = to front of the eccentric shaft oil seal than the =0A>13B/20B covers.......= ...=0A>=0A>=A0 Mark did your Renesis pump installation require any=A0pulley= adjustments for =0A>belt alignment and did =0A>=0A>you use a Renesis eccen= tric shaft pulley ??...............=0A>=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"DYKE DELTA JD2"= (Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Ba= ckplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A__= ______________________________=0AFrom: Mark Steitle =0A= >To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Wed, = May 4, 2011 11:42:40 AM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing=0A>= =0A>=0A>Kelly/Tom,=0A>=0A>You are correct that the Renesis front cover can = be made to fit on a 13B/20B, =0A>but the pan bolts are a different pattern = which will require modification to =0A>your oil pan.=A0 Also, the 20B front= counterweight is larger than the Renesis =0A>causing the=A0cover=A0to inte= rfere with the=A020B's front=A0counterweight.=A0 Material =0A>will=A0need t= o be milled=A0out for the cover to fit, but in doing that, you will end =0A= >up cutting through the cover which will require=A0tig welding the holes.= =A0 Finally, =0A>the RX-8 front cover is heavier than the 13B/20B front cov= er with Renesis water =0A>pump.=A0 Personally, I don't see an advantage to = using the Renesis front cover.=A0=A0=A0 =0A>=0A>=0A>Mark S.=0A>(Been there,= done that.)=0A>=0A>On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A>=0A>Tom,=0A>>=0A>>=A0=A0=A0 One additional thing comes to= my mind...........I do not have a RX8 Renesis =0A>>front side=0A>>housing = (cast iron) but from all of my research of photos I am fairly confident =0A= >>that the=0A>>RX8 front housing (aluminum) will bolt directly to=A0the 93-= 95=A013BREW and Cosmo =0A>>13B=0A>>and 20B with some minor=A0mods (to possi= bly clear bolt heads on the 20B front side =0A>>hsg)=0A>>and the drilling a= nd threading of=A01 to=A03 existing bosses for 8 mm x 1.25 studs =0A>>or bo= lts..=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Kelly Troyer=0A>>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>= >"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Ma= nifold=0A>>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A__________= ______________________=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer =0A>>=0A>>To: = Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>>Sent: Wed, May = 4, 2011 10:32:44 AM =0A>>=0A>>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing= =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Tom,=0A>>=A0=A0 Source for pump with=A0improved impelle= r...........They also have=A0used=A0pump and =0A>>eccentric shaft pulleys..= ....=0A>>"Mazmart" is located in Atlanta, GA............=A0=0A>>=0A>>=A0htt= p://www.mazmart.com/PartsList.aspx?id=3D27&n=3DNEW&m=3D6=0A>>=0A>>=A0=0A>>= =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Kelly Troyer=0A>>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>>"13B= ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d=0A>>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A_______________= _________________=0AFrom: Tom Giddings =0A>>To: Ro= tary motors in aircraft =0A>>Sent: Wed, May 4,= 2011 10:17:50 AM=0A>>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing=0A>>=0A>>= =0A>>Thanks Again!!=0A>>=0A>>Kind Regards =0A>>Tom Giddings=0A>>VP Avionics= Sales=0A>>Midwest Avionics=0A>>200 Hardy Roberts Drive=0A>>Paducah, KY 420= 86-0219=0A>>877-904-9966=0A>>tom@midwestavionics.net=0A>>Online Store=A0=0A= >>www.midwest-avionics.com=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On May 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, = Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Tom,=0A>>>=A0=A0=A0 Try = these two RX8 recyclers............=0A>>>=0A>>>ss427bb@hotmail.com=A0 Brian= Galloway in Calif..........Used by Greg Ward =0A>>>(Turbo/20B)=0A>>>=A0=0A= >>>mrmazda@sbcglobal.net=A0 Curtis James in Texas............Used by CozyGi= rrls, Mark =0A>>>(I believe) & myself=0A>>>=A0=0A>>>=0A>>>Kelly Troyer=0A>>= >"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>>>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>>>"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2=0A>>>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>>>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo= =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: T= homas Giddings =0A>>>To: Rotary motors in aircraft= =0A>>>Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:02:53 AM=0A>>>= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing=0A>>>=0A>>>Mark: Thanks again..= ..I must be getting old.. I remember now that you did tell =0A>>>me that in= one of our phone conversations...just now sinking in...as matter of =0A>>>= fact i just found the photo's you sent of your pump housing and engine set = -up. =0A>>>Kelly...you are a very helpful resource as well..I will try to f= ind this =A0after =0A>>>market pump. The question is does anyone have a RX8= water pump housing they =0A>>>would sell?=A0 =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Tom= =A0Giddings=0A>>>VP Avionics Sales=0A>>>MIDWEST AVIONICS=0A>>>200 Hardy Rob= erts Dr=0A>>>PO Box 219=0A>>>West Paducah,KY 42086=0A>>>877-904 9966=0A>>>C= ell; 727 858-1772=0A>>>FAX:270 744 3466=0A>>>tom@midwestaviation.net=0A>>>O= nline Store=0A>>>www.midwest-avionics.com=0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>= On May 4, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Mark Steitle wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>Tom, =0A>>>>=0A>= >>>I'm running a modified Renesis water pump housing.=A0 As you know, the 2= 0B WP =0A>>>>housing is very tall with the thermostat section protruding up= above the =0A>>>>engine.=A0 The Renesis WP housing uses a side=A0intake/di= scharge but=A0is integrated =0A>>>>with the front cover.=A0=A0The WP sectio= n=A0must be cut away from the remainder of the =0A>>>>Renesis front cover t= o be used on a non-Renesis application.=A0 =0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>The Renesis= WP cartridge is much lighter than the cast iron 20B cartridge, but =0A>>>>= the impellor is very cheaply made.=A0 In the stock configuration, it may no= t pump =0A>>>>enough coolant to cool a 3-rotor.=A0 I went with an aftermark= et WP cartridge which =0A>>>>has a SS impellor similar to that of the 20B.= =A0 I'll have to look for the info on =0A>>>>that.=A0 Pump was a bit pricey= =A0at $265.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>You may also need a custom WP pulley to run a Rene= sis pump on a non-renesis =0A>>>>engine. =0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Mark=0A>>>>= =0A>>>>=0A>>>>=A0=0A>>>>On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Giddings =0A>>>>wrote:=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Can anyone tell me which= water pump housing will lower the overall height of the =0A>>>>housing on = the stock 20B. I need to keep =A0it the height of block if possible. I =0A>= >>>have seen some photos of one that would work.It was on a two rotor engin= e.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>Tom Giddings=0A>>>>>VP Avionics Sales=0A>>>>>MIDW= EST AVIONICS=0A>>>>>200 Hardy Roberts Dr=0A>>>>>PO Box 219=0A>>>>>West Padu= cah,KY 42086=0A>>>>>877-904 9966=0A>>>>>Cell; 727 858-1772=0A>>>>>FAX:270 7= 44 3466=0A>>>>>tom@midwestaviation.net=0A>>>>>Online Store=0A>>>>>www.midwe= st-avionics.com=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>--=0A>>>>>Ho= mepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A>>>>>Archive and UnSub: =A0 =0A>>>ht= tp://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A= >>>><20B_WP_Picture 002 small.JPG>--=0A>>>>Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotar= y.com/=0A>>>>Archive and UnSub: =0A>>=A0=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81= /lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A --0-228220858-1304555060=:52210 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A
Thanks Mark.......... Again appreciate the info and= opinion from someone who
=0A
has actually been there and&nbs= p;done it ...............
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTR= AL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A
<= BR>
=0A

=0A
=0A
= =0AFrom: Mark Steitle <m= steitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 1:13:40 PMSubject: [FlyRotary] Re: = water pump housing

=0A
Kelly,
=0A
 
= =0A
I wasn't going to go there, but since you mentioned it, here goes.&= nbsp; I wanted to go with the Renesis CAS, so needed a CAS timing wheel.&nb= sp; I bought this new, and in order to get a CAS timing whee= l, I had to buy the entire hub/pulley/wheel assy.  I figured why not g= o with the Renesis WP also, which is what I did.  The Renesis pulley i= s different and would have messed up the eccentric end-play setti= ng if not modified.  So, lots of careful measuring later, I visited my= machinist friend and made the necessary mods to the Renesis hub.  Als= o, made a thin precision spacer.  When all was done, the hub was = installed on the 20b, but without the Renesis front cover.  I could no= t see any benefit to using the lower portion of the Renesis front cover, so= I cut off the WP and threw the rest away.  
=0A
 <= /DIV>=0A
I messed around for 2 years trying to get the Renesi= s CAS to work with the EC-2 and finally gave up and reinstalled the origina= l 20B CAS, which is what I'm currently using.  (It is working well now= .)  However, I never removed the Renesis hub, so I don't know what&nbs= p;would be necessary to get the pulleys to line up with the stock 20B = hub.  Someone else will have to go down that road.  For now mine = is running good, cooling well, and I'm not going to touch anything for= a long time.  
=0A
 
=0A
Mark 
<= BR>
=0A
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Kelly = Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
=0A
=0A
=0A=0A
=0A
Mark,
=0A
 
=0A
   Thanks= for the "Real World Info"................I was fairly confident the R= enesis front cover could be
=0A
bolted to the 13BREW and Cosmo 13B= /20B but I was not aware of the counterweight interference
=0A
on = the 20B not having seen inside one...............This is the kind of i= nformation this group is famous
=0A
for.............The sharing of= knowledge to help each other over the hurdles of adapting the Rotarys=0A
for aircraft use.............One reason I suggested the use of the= complete Renesis front cover was to
=0A
allow the use of the stoc= k eccentric hub/trigger wheel/pulleys without the need for any spacers to=0A
align the pump,alternator and eccentric pulleys...........= ......The Renesis front cover is approx 1 inch
=0A
shorter from ga= sket surface to front of the eccentric shaft oil seal than the 13B/20B cove= rs..........
=0A
 
=0A
  Mark did your Renesis = pump installation require any pulley adjustments for belt alignment an= d did
=0A
you use a Renesis eccentric shaft pulley ??............= ...
=0A
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer
"= DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Mani= fold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A

=0A

=0A=0A
=0AFrom: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
T= o: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 11:42:40 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pu= mp housing

=0A
Kelly/Tom,
=0A
 
=0AYou are correct that the Renesis front cover can be made to fit on a 13B/= 20B, but the pan bolts are a different pattern which will require modificat= ion to your oil pan.  Also, the 20B front counterweight is larger than= the Renesis causing the cover to interfere with the 20B's f= ront counterweight.  Material will need to be milled ou= t for the cover to fit, but in doing that, you will end up cutting through = the cover which will require tig welding the holes.  Finally, the= RX-8 front cover is heavier than the 13B/20B front cover with Renesis wate= r pump.  Personally, I don't see an advantage to using the Renesis fro= nt cover.   
=0A
Mark S.
(Been there, done = that.)
=0A
 
=0A
On Wed, May 4, = 2011 at 11:11 AM, Kelly Troyer <= keltro@att.net> wrote:
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
Tom,
=0A
 
=0A<= DIV>    One additional thing comes to my mind...........I do= not have a RX8 Renesis front side
=0A
housing (cast iron) but fro= m all of my research of photos I am fairly confident that the
=0A
= RX8 front housing (aluminum) will bolt directly to the 93-95 13BR= EW and Cosmo 13B
=0A
and 20B with some minor mods (to possibl= y clear bolt heads on the 20B front side hsg)
=0A
and the drilling= and threading of 1 to 3 existing bosses for 8 mm x 1.25 studs or= bolts..
=0A
=0A
 
=0A
 
=0A

Kelly T= royer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eve= ntually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM= 2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A


=0A

=0A
= =0A
=0AFrom: Ke= lly Troyer <keltro@att.net> =0A

<= B>To: Rotary motors in aircraf= t <flyrotary@lancairo= nline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:32:44 AM =0A
=0A
=0A

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pu= mp housing
=0A
=0A
=0A

=0A
=0A=0A<= DIV>
=0A
Tom,
=0A
   Source for pump with = improved impeller...........They also have used pump and eccentri= c shaft pulleys......
=0A
"Mazmart" is located in Atlanta, GA.....= ....... 
=0A
 http://www.mazmart.com/PartsList.aspx?= id=3D27&n=3DNEW&m=3D6
=0A
 
=0A
 
=0A
 
=0A
=0A
=  
=0A
=0A
 
=0A
 = ;
=0A

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2"= (Eventually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine<= BR>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONE= TICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A

=0A

=0A
=0A
=0AFrom:<= /SPAN> Tom Giddings <tom@= midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:17:50 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump hou= sing

=0A
Thanks Again!!

Kind Regards =0A
=0ATom Giddings
=0A
VP Avionics Sales
=0A
Midwest Avionic= s
=0A
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
=0A
Paducah, KY 42086-0219<= /DIV>=0A=0A=0A
Online= Store 
=0A=0A

<= /DIV>
=0A

On May 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Kelly Troyer <= keltro@att.net> wrote:

=0A
=
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0A
Tom,=0A
    Try these two RX8 recyclers............
= =0A
 
=0A
<= FONT color=3D#0081c2>ss427bb@hotmail.com  Brian Galloway in= Calif..........Used by Greg Ward (Turbo/20B)
=0A
 
=0A
mrmazda@sbcglobal.net=   Curtis James in Texas............Used by CozyGirrls, Mark (I bel= ieve) & myself
=0A
 
=0A
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer
<= STRONG>"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MIST= RAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A
=
=0A

=0A
=0A
= =0AFrom: Thomas Giddings &l= t;tom@midwestaviation.net>=
To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft <flyrotary@lanc= aironline.net>
Sent:<= /B> Wed, May 4, 2011 9:02:53 AM
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing

Mark: Tha= nks again....I must be getting old.. I remember now that you did tell me th= at in one of our phone conversations...just now sinking in...as matter of f= act i just found the photo's you sent of your pump housing and engine set -= up. Kelly...you are a very helpful resource as well..I will try to find thi= s  after market pump. The question is does anyone have a RX8 water pump housing they would= sell?  =0A

=0A
= =0A
=0A
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Tom Giddings
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On May 4, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Mark Steit= le wrote:

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I'm running a modified Renesis water pump housing. = ; As you know, the 20B WP housing is very tall with the thermostat section = protruding up above the engine.  The Renesis WP housing uses a side&nb= sp;intake/discharge but is integrated with the front cover.  = ;The WP section must be cut away from the remainder of the Renesis fro= nt cover to be used on a non-Renesis application. 
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The Renesis WP cartridge is much lighter than the cast iron = 20B cartridge, but the impellor is very cheaply made.  In the stock co= nfiguration, it may not pump enough coolant to cool a 3-rotor.  I went= with an aftermarket WP cartridge which has a SS impellor similar to that o= f the 20B.  I'll have to look for the info on that.  Pump was a b= it pricey at $265.
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You may also need = a custom WP pulley to run a Renesis pump on a non-renesis engine.
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On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net> wrote:
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Can anyone tell me which water = pump housing will lower the overall height of the housing on the stock 20B.= I need to keep  it the height of block if possible. I have seen some = photos of one that would work.It was on a two rotor engine.


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