Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54362
From: H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:37:13 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Greg, I can't remember if I've asked this in the past, so forgive me if I have.  

How is the air from the boundry layer divider [diverter?] going to get out around the plumbing conduites [running back from the firewall]?  
From this last front shot, it looks like the 'conduites' are sorta 'fencing' in the air the would normally get diverted out the sides.

I'm sure I'm missing something [just the angle of the shot] but thought I'd ask.

She's going to be a speed demon!!

Jarrett Johnson


> One more shot with gear doors shut.
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Giddings" <tom@midwestaviation.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:54 AM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video
>
>
> Greg: I also thought about the P51 style scoop. I do think it is a
> great
> idea. I have a landing gear that retracts into the fuselage and
> there really
> is not much room for a belly scoop. Could you post some Pics of
> how you did
> this. How Big is the Radiator and scoop and where did you place
> the oil
> cooler. By the way if any of you are at Sun N Fun next week .
> Please stop by
> and say Hi. I will be in Building A booth 67 all week. I plan on
> getting out
> and looking at some flying examples if possible. and maybe  see
> some of you
> folks then.
>
> Tom Giddings
>
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Greg Ward wrote:
>
> > Hey Tom;
> > We looked at this scenario when we were laying out our Legacy,
> and
> > determined that it was packing too much into a cowling that
> already had a
> > large intercooler, and a turbo that was guaranteed to be
> radiating about
> > 1400 to 1900 degrees of heat.  So, the question was, where to
> put a
> > radiator, oil cooler, etc. outside of the cowling?  We settled
> on a P-51
> > scoop for both, and built it exactly like the original, hoping
> for a
> > little thrust return.  Difference was, we kept the radiator out
> of the
> > fuselage, because we didn't want a leak in the cockpit at 20+K
> feet, with
> > all that entails.  We are also looking at installing a hot water
> heating
> > system, with valves both in and out for the very same reasons.  
> So, what
> > we have left is, the engine, intercooler, turbo, and whatever
> goes on the
> > firewall, with a lot of air going through, to hopefully keep
> everything
> > happy.  The flaps on the scoop should enable us to keep temps
> under
> > control, a' la P-51, so we'll see.
> >
> > Greg Ward
> > Lancair Legacy N178RG, Still in progress
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Giddings"
> > <tom@midwestaviation.net>
> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] intersting video
> >
> >
> > Here is a youtube engine test run of an LS1 V8. Watch it long
> enough to
> > see how the dual radiators are plumbed. This system for engine
> cooling
> > includes two radiators which appear to be in series. It  seems
> to be going
> > from the thermostat housing to the top of the first radiator
> then is taken
> > out the bottom of the first one and crosses over to number two
> at the top
> > inlet and back out the bottom into the pump and back through the
> block
> > .They are both dual pass radiators . They feed this air from two
> outside
> > the cowl scoops. Bud Warren claims this cools very well. In fact
> he claims
> > it is the only way to cool the 300HP LS1 V8's . I wanted to
> original
> > install a LS3 into my Questair, but could quite get it stuffed
> in there .
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUSbOAZRRtg. If this link does
> not work
> > search youtube for Franks Bearhawk Test run. Incidently they
> claim they
> > need 1256 Sq In of radiator surface to keep the V8 running at
> 190 in
> > cruise and 200 max in the climb. Also if you to geared drives
> yahoo forum
> > there is a very interesting read on the subject on cooling
> requirements
> > for the LS1.
> >
> > Tom Giddings
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