X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTP id 4921574 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:41:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.32; envelope-from=wschertz@comcast.net Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRB81g0021zF43QA3RgxGp; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:40:57 +0000 Received: from WschertzPC ([71.57.77.95]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRgv1g00R23NHuF8kRgwf8; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:40:57 +0000 Message-ID: <2BFA82990851456BB37A7C9BF0CA5278@WschertzPC> From: "Bill Schertz" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Turbo install, was interesting video Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:40:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Greg, Do you have a scavenge pump for the oil return from the turbo since it is below the level of the oil pan? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase one testing Completed -----Original Message----- From: Greg Ward Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:43 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video Hey Tom; We looked at this scenario when we were laying out our Legacy, and determined that it was packing too much into a cowling that already had a large intercooler, and a turbo that was guaranteed to be radiating about 1400 to 1900 degrees of heat. So, the question was, where to put a radiator, oil cooler, etc. outside of the cowling? We settled on a P-51 scoop for both, and built it exactly like the original, hoping for a little thrust return. Difference was, we kept the radiator out of the fuselage, because we didn't want a leak in the cockpit at 20+K feet, with all that entails. We are also looking at installing a hot water heating system, with valves both in and out for the very same reasons. So, what we have left is, the engine, intercooler, turbo, and whatever goes on the firewall, with a lot of air going through, to hopefully keep everything happy. The flaps on the scoop should enable us to keep temps under control, a' la P-51, so we'll see. Greg Ward Lancair Legacy N178RG, Still in progress ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Giddings" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] intersting video Here is a youtube engine test run of an LS1 V8. Watch it long enough to see how the dual radiators are plumbed. This system for engine cooling includes two radiators which appear to be in series. It seems to be going from the thermostat housing to the top of the first radiator then is taken out the bottom of the first one and crosses over to number two at the top inlet and back out the bottom into the pump and back through the block .They are both dual pass radiators . They feed this air from two outside the cowl scoops. Bud Warren claims this cools very well. In fact he claims it is the only way to cool the 300HP LS1 V8's . I wanted to original install a LS3 into my Questair, but could quite get it stuffed in there . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUSbOAZRRtg. If this link does not work search youtube for Franks Bearhawk Test run. Incidently they claim they need 1256 Sq In of radiator surface to keep the V8 running at 190 in cruise and 200 max in the climb. Also if you to geared drives yahoo forum there is a very interesting read on the subject on cooling requirements for the LS1. Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales MIDWEST AVIONICS 200 Hardy Roberts Dr PO Box 219 West Paducah,KY 42086 877-904 9966 Cell; 727 858-1772 FAX:270 744 3466 tom@midwestaviation.net Online Store www.midwest-avionics.com -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html