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Greg: I also thought about the P51 style scoop. I do think it is a great idea. I have a landing gear that retracts into the fuselage and there really is not much room for a belly scoop. Could you post some Pics of how you did this. How Big is the Radiator and scoop and where did you place the oil cooler. By the way if any of you are at Sun N Fun next week . Please stop by and say Hi. I will be in Building A booth 67 all week. I plan on getting out and looking at some flying examples if possible. and maybe see some of you folks then.
Tom Giddings
On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Greg Ward wrote:
> Hey Tom;
> We looked at this scenario when we were laying out our Legacy, and determined that it was packing too much into a cowling that already had a large intercooler, and a turbo that was guaranteed to be radiating about 1400 to 1900 degrees of heat. So, the question was, where to put a radiator, oil cooler, etc. outside of the cowling? We settled on a P-51 scoop for both, and built it exactly like the original, hoping for a little thrust return. Difference was, we kept the radiator out of the fuselage, because we didn't want a leak in the cockpit at 20+K feet, with all that entails. We are also looking at installing a hot water heating system, with valves both in and out for the very same reasons. So, what we have left is, the engine, intercooler, turbo, and whatever goes on the firewall, with a lot of air going through, to hopefully keep everything happy. The flaps on the scoop should enable us to keep temps under control, a' la P-51, so we'll see.
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> Greg Ward
> Lancair Legacy N178RG, Still in progress
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Giddings" <tom@midwestaviation.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] intersting video
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> Here is a youtube engine test run of an LS1 V8. Watch it long enough to see how the dual radiators are plumbed. This system for engine cooling includes two radiators which appear to be in series. It seems to be going from the thermostat housing to the top of the first radiator then is taken out the bottom of the first one and crosses over to number two at the top inlet and back out the bottom into the pump and back through the block .They are both dual pass radiators . They feed this air from two outside the cowl scoops. Bud Warren claims this cools very well. In fact he claims it is the only way to cool the 300HP LS1 V8's . I wanted to original install a LS3 into my Questair, but could quite get it stuffed in there . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUSbOAZRRtg. If this link does not work search youtube for Franks Bearhawk Test run. Incidently they claim they need 1256 Sq In of radiator surface to keep the V8 running at 190 in cruise and 200 max in the climb. Also if you to geared drives yahoo forum there is a very interesting read on the subject on cooling requirements for the LS1.
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