X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTPS id 4905293 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:44:26 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so2730747fxm.25 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:43:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IuYXCqtLXUUjpcemxXfQa1H/SFjtKdFnSs7YaIl1imQ=; b=hNZLYLmVNv4RfrmqPoLy0u/+ggJCOHDP5F+ifrNFBjpYe9aJz/rCG/jX8Djj8n4a5I 5QVEZexwbSNHQK5nhgkLrb80wAdb0yN8UXfHyRk6KI0uKCR61ykwuXQDAUu4LV6d+uXf k76jh+VpqCIBWGAIcOxcdpdO4M37tMPTpBd0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gpLhoQKRDRS7i9piaxkp/pEhyynxp5L9dCuMlSgSk1r2OVgv6QWN+/aR/J1I1DYUBA t1YIyyPh48VHI6hjfEtQcrkdcMwWlGZYXdufYz18H5wdxXFtN5GtEceFU1bxi3hEOwKL nnZf+pGrK+rQX3HhTZsXfwXbh6OoNNovbXYnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.18.11 with SMTP id u11mr4935736faa.146.1300063363057; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.102.136 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:42:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cracking exhaust manifolds/ Crankcase ventilation From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bc20f0ca93049e6696aa --00151747bc20f0ca93049e6696aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bevel washers... yes! That would work even better. Thanks for the suggestion Lynn. Mark On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 3/13/2011 6:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > fluffysheap@gmail.com writes: > > On my home spun exhaust for my 3-rotor, I tighten the exhaust studs for > the center rotor, but only snug down the bolts for #1 and #3 in order to > allow the exhaust manifold to grow and shrink as necessary. With 1600-1700* > EGT's, it seems obvious that the manifold will grow more than the engine and > if not allowed to move, it will crack. By torquing them only enough to > prevent leakage, they are allowed to grow as needed, preventing cracks. So > far, no broken studs or cracked exhaust manifold on my 3-rotor. > > Mark S. > > > Bingo. > > How about you torque up the center most stud to auto spec, then use 2 bevel > washers flange to flange pulled down just short of flat on all other studs. > > Then use a short stack of bevel washers above and below a flange on the > turbo setup to a strut to support the weight and keep the strain off of the > manifold. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > --00151747bc20f0ca93049e6696aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bevel washers... yes! =A0That would work even better. =A0Thanks for the sug= gestion Lynn. =A0

Mark

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:47 PM, <Lehanover@aol.com> wrote:
In a message dated 3/13/2011 6:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 fluffysheap@gmai= l.com writes:
=A0On=20 my home spun exhaust for my 3-rotor, I tighten the exhaust studs for the= =20 center rotor, but only snug down the bolts for #1 and #3 in order to allo= w the=20 exhaust manifold to grow and shrink as necessary. =A0With 1600-1700* EGT&= #39;s,=20 it seems obvious that the manifold will grow more than the engine and if = not=20 allowed to move, it will crack. =A0By torquing them only enough to preven= t=20 leakage, they are allowed to grow as needed, preventing cracks. =A0So far= ,=20 no broken studs or cracked exhaust manifold on my 3-rotor. =A0=20

Mark S.
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Bingo.
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How about you torque up the center most stud to auto spec, then use 2 = bevel=20 washers flange to flange pulled down just short of flat on all other=20 studs.
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Then use a short stack of bevel washers above and below a flange on th= e=20 turbo setup to a strut to support the weight and keep the strain off of the= =20 manifold.
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Lynn E. Hanover
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