Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54082
From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:39:46 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Here is the second email I am quoting Brian Galloway>

"We find that the small dowel pin motors are weak. They crack sideplates easily when pushed past 10-12psi boost which is at around 530HP. 

There is a fix for this.  Cost about $2000.00 extra and the engine needs to be disassembled. We use the 12.7mm stud kit and bore and tap all the sidplates to accept the larger studs. Basically creating a girdle. The bock is bullet proof after this. We have one making over 1600HP at a little over 45psi boost pressure"

Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
877-904 9966
Cell; 727 858-1772
FAX:270 744 3466
tom@midwestaviation.net


On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:

Thomas,
     Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the group............
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very early 20B

Tom

On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:

Thomas,
     Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is very knowledgeable in
the 20B models and the differences between them.........Improvements were made in the
year models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are not as important as
we are not severely stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) do.........I do know that the
later model 20B's sell at a premium...........The last time I corresponded with him he had
both early and late 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans bell housing from him
(My 13B "Cosmo" uses it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of this group
.....See photo) attached)..........FWIW
 
Brian Galloway <ss427bb@hotmail.com>
 
 
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

On a similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I have? I was told ,but have no real way of knowing .

On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:

Pat,
     If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number of bolts
on the pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP bolts.....
 
    93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but there are
other ways if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to alum
housing.........
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: Pat Panzera <editor.contactmagazine@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Numbers?

Hey gang,

I have a core engine I need to identify.
Are there any numbers on the web I can look up?

Thanks!

Pat

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