Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #5404
From: <daveleonard@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake question
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:08:32 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Wow Rusty, that is very strange.  That intake was sold to me already bolted onto my 4-port by Atkins.  I don't get the impression they do a great job, but still cant immaging they would be selling engine manifold combos that are that mis-alligned.  I am now using a modified stock '91 4-port intake on the engine that Atkins sold and it fits great - I am pretty sure..  ???!!?

Maybe yours is actually a 6-port engine that has been ported open to 4-ports.  Is that possible?  Maybe it is an older 4-port?  Something is just not clicking right

Dave Leonard
> I just made a trip to the hanger to take my cowl and fiberglass crap back
> from the garage.  First, I'd like to publicly state that I am an idiot :-)  
>  
> I took a look at the wrapover manifold that I was using on the engine
> previously, and noticed that it has the same size secondary ports as the
> straight manifold that I got from David.  In other words, they're both
> 6-port intakes.  I don't know if that caused me any problems before, but it
> couldn't have helped.  Paul, you said the straight, and wrapover both
> matched up well to your ports.  Do you have a 4 or 6 port block?  Better
> hope you have a 4 :-)  
>  
> Now the good news, I took another look at the Mazdatrix intake that I was
> planning to use before, and found that it matches my 4-port engine quite
> well.   I was copying this excellent idea from Paul, but gave up when it
> seemed that it couldn't be cut low enough to fit under the cowl.  Well, with
> renewed motivation, I found that it can work as originally planned.  I'll
> really have to cut it to the minimum, but it will work.  This will leave the
> TB on the cold side of the engine, basically in the way of changing the
> spark plugs.  You can't have everything :-)   The other good point is that I
> can sneak under the right cheek evap core, and get air from the bottom of
> the air duct.  I couldn't do that on the left because of the exhaust pipes.
>
>  
> So, nothing stands between me, and getting the engine running again, with
> the exception of my poor welding skills, and lack of ability to use the
> mill/lathe :-)
>  
> Cheers,
> Rusty (next project festering)  
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Message

Welding shops carry AL 'brazing rod'. It's melting point is around 750
degrees, well below AL's.

Charlie

 
Thanks for the info Charlie, but it probably won't come down to needing it. 
 
I just made a trip to the hanger to take my cowl and fiberglass crap back from the garage.  First, I'd like to publicly state that I am an idiot :-) 
 
I took a look at the wrapover manifold that I was using on the engine previously, and noticed that it has the same size secondary ports as the straight manifold that I got from David.  In other words, they're both 6-port intakes.  I don't know if that caused me any problems before, but it couldn't have helped.  Paul, you said the straight, and wrapover both matched up well to your ports.  Do you have a 4 or 6 port block?  Better hope you have a 4 :-)  
 
Now the good news, I took another look at the Mazdatrix intake that I was planning to use before, and found that it matches my 4-port engine quite well.   I was copying this excellent idea from Paul, but gave up when it seemed that it couldn't be cut low enough to fit under the cowl.  Well, with renewed motivation, I found that it can work as originally planned.  I'll really have to cut it to the minimum, but it will work.  This will leave the TB on the cold side of the engine, basically in the way of changing the spark plugs.  You can't have everything :-)   The other good point is that I can sneak under the right cheek evap core, and get air from the bottom of the air duct.  I couldn't do that on the left because of the exhaust pipes.  
 
So, nothing stands between me, and getting the engine running again, with the exception of my poor welding skills, and lack of ability to use the mill/lathe :-)
 
Cheers,
Rusty (next project festering)   


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