X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.242] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with SMTP id 4592640 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:53:40 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.242; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm12.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2010 08:53:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.26] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2010 08:53:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2010 08:53:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 767437.7411.bm@omp1026.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10659 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Nov 2010 08:53:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1290761584; bh=XWK1t0NYhbFfanCnDHOCvXrhPB8xa7wyT/WJjL0luvg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rvVNb2t0EXQAhCghLbqgshhlcupD8gARj0ryGc70yYW4fRaHSxyazyqj6pDwIGxUiEYvebJ1uR/IpxP2FPb372FFIDih/OE2KnXuZui18qHJ5fasTuNaTuqwh/QUEROn/j2htucUwnlIwCV17paIENpuAnuNME+VsuzJ1GOw1uQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fjk1avvS4gXYaz87yvaADOtCM0XJdGl9BW62ZUcsUw77Sz+C3PNUfN55nMBEzBN44KckeH8um2U22pgHYvYep8LDO/SyWWidX7AnYcFZeh3vOqDMebjMe/XGN1WZ0A2vFvgpS8ZBwBCqTmGMoAtHDWV1zE4U+0FNNVn9BxG5seg=; Message-ID: <484991.81685.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5_xy9zMVM1kU970MxQw1lpZjcekDaAZfO3p6ov8zUhyP1Pa jiwXCW5wGi_JXuSzOaHnwsfZ1T.hfw2llekVHpY_wxVBZDxAX0sL8QpFrWfI XKdxbUA15Qp57SN1Xa85SolKKSnMgpNGTJmCcEHzjnsgyCjOA0SJfMBjAAb. kuxrpVyUk6rsN20DO4LWQLq31sIqqqFrWkqk8Ru9BxcH_fNYb4WdNpNSNHdg abz...JLjC3IObOhNMqeAbapDvinD1XmqGZSx5AoCHrtudwTH7ik_z0DtJtC yWjGeB0loHw-- Received: from [208.114.47.135] by web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:53:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:53:04 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Improved Waterpump To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1272789884-1290761584=:81685" --0-1272789884-1290761584=:81685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew,=0A=A0=A0 Someone on the list will correct me if I am wrong but the = way I understand =0Acavitation is=A0that=0Athe impeller is turning so fast = that a slight vacuum is formed at the=A0blade tips =0Aand they=A0no longer = =0A=0Aare picking up water (or as much water) and pressure and flow is redu= ced much =0Alike when=A0the=0Atips of a propeller begin going sonic in air= =A0and it loses thrust..........=A0=0A=A0=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2"= (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backp= late/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________= __________________=0AFrom: Andrew Martin =0ATo: Rot= ary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Fri, November = 26, 2010 2:28:52 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Improved Waterpump= =0A=0AKelly =0A=0AI imported one of those pumps for my Renesis a couple of = years ago as my engine =0Aarrived without an OEM pump, and it just looked s= o much more like a pump should, =0Amaybe in a few months I may start the en= gine and be able to report its =0Aeffectiveness.=0AAm I right in assuming t= he only problem with pumping coolant fast is in the HP =0Aconsumed? and cav= itation is more a result of the heat exchanger being unable to =0Aflow as f= ast as the pump?=0A=0AAndrew=0AWestern Australia=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Nov 26,= 2010 at 12:16 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A=0AGroup,=0A>=0A>= =A0=A0=A0 Renesis waterpump with improved impeller for more efficent flow a= nd =0A>cavitation resistant at=A0high rpm...........A little=0A>pricey but = Christmas is coming !!.......................<:)=0A>=0A>The purpose of the = pump is to improve on Mazda's design since we are able to =0A>precision han= d build each unit and have vast experience with rotary engines =0A>being ra= ced amid torturous conditions (Having raced and won at 12 hours of =0A>Sebr= ing, Daytona 24 hour, 24 Heurs du Mans and won multipe championships). What= =0A>our pump does is move a greater quantity of water out of the block qui= cker (As =0A>allowed by the thermostat) to be exposed to the cooling elemen= ts. This is =0A>accomplished by superior design. We start with brand new wa= ter pumps from Mazda =0A>and install our impeller that we've designed. Our = impeller moves more water and =0A>prevents cavitation by having much tigher= clearances (To every surface), helical =0A>shape, closed back and conical = introduction. Our design is reminiscent of that =0A>used on the R26B 4 roto= r engine and does not require any under drive pulley to =0A>slow it down.= =0A>=0A>=0A>http://www.mazmart.com/remedy.html=0A>=A0=A0=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A= >"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM= 2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>--= =0A>Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A>Archive and UnSub: =A0 http:/= /mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>=0A> --0-1272789884-1290761584=:81685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Andrew,
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   Someone on the li= st will correct me if I am wrong but the way I understand cavitation is&nbs= p;that
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the impeller is turning so fast that a slight vacuum is= formed at the blade tips and they no longer
=0A
are pi= cking up water (or as much water) and pressure and flow is reduced much lik= e when the
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tips of a propeller begin going sonic in air&n= bsp;and it loses thrust.......... 
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually= )

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"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"M= ISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0AFrom: Andrew Martin &l= t;andrew@martinag.com.au>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
<= B>Sent: Fri, November 26, 2010= 2:28:52 AM
Subject: [Fl= yRotary] Re: Renesis Improved Waterpump

Kelly =0A

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I imported one of those pumps for my Renesis a couple of years a= go as my engine arrived without an OEM pump, and it just looked so much mor= e like a pump should, maybe in a few months I may start the engine and be a= ble to report its effectiveness.
=0A
Am I right in assuming the on= ly problem with pumping coolant fast is in the HP consumed? and cavitation = is more a result of the heat exchanger being unable to flow as fast as the = pump?
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=0A
Andrew
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Western Australia<= /DIV>=0A


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On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12= :16 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att= .net> wrote:
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Group,
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 = ;
=0A
    Renesis waterpump with improved impeller = for more efficent flow and cavitation resistant at high rpm...........= A little
=0A
pricey but Christmas is coming !!....................= ...<:)
=0A
 
=0A
The purpose of the pump is to im= prove on Mazda's design since we are able to precision hand build each unit= and have vast experience with rotary engines being raced amid torturous co= nditions (Having raced and won at 12 hours of Sebring, Daytona 24 hour, 24 = Heurs du Mans and won multipe championships). What our pump does is move a = greater quantity of water out of the block quicker (As allowed by the therm= ostat) to be exposed to the cooling elements. This is accomplished by super= ior design. We start with brand new water pumps from Mazda and install our = impeller that we've designed. Our impeller moves more water and prevents ca= vitation by having much tigher clearances (To every surface), helical shape= , closed back and conical introduction. Our design is reminiscent of that u= sed on the R26B 4 rotor engine and does not require any under drive pulley = to slow it down.
=0A
 
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http://www.mazmart.co= m/remedy.html
=0A
  
=0A

Kelly Troyer
= "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Ba= ckplate/Oil Manifold

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A
<= /DIV>

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