X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with SMTP id 4588851 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:00:05 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.84; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2010 02:59:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.16] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2010 02:59:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2010 02:59:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 216922.52265.bm@omp1016.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37202 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2010 02:59:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1290481169; bh=6aOgyeioLlYyF57XqW5yPceAQDfxxQjLFpka1pKwN+U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KI8Nxk0ERBRVMGDJ3/izVfbaO/SkmFI/JGCXbPhCGpgMJx6esO4u+BomAxdHmjShBmlbDO/2Y2k9fTWTpWEEqsoEB5avG+CEmhUlipecKOw2FMFergq863qDH71LmhUSFcEIk5wwvNVlubNiONwlEHBPceFDPp53MQUCHWAdpes= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P84QnSlVW/vaA+Ch1Yro7qowc7UT9m4apeO9mWZ6qtHskZwRnoqi0OlNd9EELUCIFpBIjbz/Sw7Vjmo4r9EQErq1zxr7zgTyik2i0D1rzMB4yeMz9bow9B5he84uuABQI/ZSM2rUE/HIB4kMVfnJHbZp7Ym0QNdLaP8Ek+VZxxA=; Message-ID: <993248.37159.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mSUThaAVM1n.Ncgr4ACWeViSjlKcD4lmVwKUEfn3TPAYmlf NDSCTfkK.TnQ_NGvrnivxBo5RaZ92hMPeO4dmzGdSFS34_jVF6FiXSg7cZJB jvWk2fvTondu7xPR2ujD57hoH3rT5_FsiE7taLUNrfIfKhvUo1wF9Pj77_MM T_p19MYgorIZx8c0GhIrK3r1m02HQEmLR_J.B3R1el1BCfZYYLxlGCIzyr3t CEJ.C5DJUipmo6icumbX60WZdg1hqTLpQY8l9G7baEng5FDWz9WlZlHSBL__ PJzf2ntRU8g-- Received: from [208.114.46.19] by web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:59:29 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:59:29 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2081756589-1290481169=:37159" --0-2081756589-1290481169=:37159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ditto for me also...........My EC2 is an early square box and I had to requ= est =0Athe 2 BAR=0AMAP Sensor when it was purchased...............=0A=0AKel= ly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD= 1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Leonard =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Mon, November 22, 2010 6:12:35 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tr= ailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20=0A=0A=0ABill, =0AI have one of t= he early aquare boxes, at that time I did have to request a =0Aspecial tubo= model.=A0 So Tracy must have changed it after you bought yours.=0A=0ADave = Leonard=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Bill Bradburry =0Awrote:=0A=0ATracy,=0A>Not that I need or want to waste b= ins with unused manifold pressures, but is =0A>that something that you prog= ram into the EC-2 if it is going to be used with a =0A>turbo?=A0=A0 My unit= is the rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, and upgraded in Oct =0A>2007.= =A0 it only goes up to 41.8 inches of pressure in the top bin.???=0A>=A0=0A= >Bill B=0A>=A0=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>From:Rotary mot= ors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of =0A>Tracy= =0A>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:05 AM =0A>=0A>To: Rotary motors in a= ircraft=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was= : N20=0A>=A0=0A>All EC2/3s in the rectangular box (past 8 years or so) use = 2 BAR MAP sensors =0A>which work up to 60" Hg MP.=0A>=0A>Tracy=A0 =0A>On Mo= n, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A>=A0=A0= =A0 My EC2 "MAP" sensors=A0are for boosted use ( I presume MAP sensors are = =0A>different for =0A>=0A>boosted use )...............I have seen=A0what MP= it is good for but cannot recall =0A>the number off =0A>=0A>the top of my = head !!..............Tracy ??.........Help !!=0A>=A0=A0=A0=0A>Kelly Troyer= =0A>"DYKE DELTA JD2"(Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/= EM2=0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>= =A0=0A>=A0=0A>=0A________________________________=0A=0A>From:Bill Bradburry= =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:24:26 AM=0A>Subject: [Fly= Rotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20=0A>Dave,=0A>The to= p bin, +127, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of manifold pressure.=A0 Does yours = =0A>go higher?=A0 =0A>=0A>I just figured that Tracy had something in mind w= hen he set those limits.=A0 What =0A>does the EC-2 do when you go outside i= ts limits?=A0 Does it keep everything the =0A>same as the last time it saw = an instruction?=0A>I have no intention of boosting my setup and I am roughl= y at sea level, (55 Ft =0A>), so with ram air, I might be able to see 31 in= ches.=A0 The rest I will never =0A>use.=0A>=A0=0A>You are welcome to borrow= them if you like.=A0=A0 :>)=0A>=A0=0A>Bill B=0A>=A0=0A>=0A________________= ________________=0A=0A>From:Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lan= caironline.net] On Behalf Of =0A>David Leonard=0A>Sent: Monday, November 22= , 2010 9:25 AM=0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:= Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>>=A0=0A>>I h= ave no knowledge of boosted rotary engines. It is a fad. It will go away.= =0A>>=A0=0A>>Lynn E. Hanover=A0=A0=0A>=0A>LOL, I have no knowledge either.= =A0 But that is a different matter.=0A>=A0=0A>Thanks for the detailed reply= , as expected, only I can choose my level of boost =0A>and no one has the m= agic number of when I will run into problems with =0A>detonation.=A0 And wh= o am I kidding by trying to push the limit.=A0 Inching up the =0A>power...= =A0 If 45 inches is no problem, then 46" is going to be OK... =0A>=0A>=A0= =0A>Unfortunately, having "a problem" will mean an engine re-build if not a= nother =0A>landing on a road.=A0 So I must set an arbitrary limit and stick= to it....=A0=A0 =0A>=0A>(drone voice of Homer Simpson):=A0Eight Hundred ho= rse power..=0A>.. No, stick to the boost=A0limit....=0A>...Eight Hundred ho= rse power...=0A>.. This is an airplane, we are not safely=A0on the ground..= .=0A>..Eight Hundred horse power...=0A>.. Stay away from the light, do not = go into the light!=0A>=A0=0A>45 inches MAP.=A0 That is my final word, That = is law. =0A>=0A>-- =0A>David Leonard=0A>=0A>Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0A>http:= //n4vy.rotaryroster.net/=0A>http://rotaryroster.net/=0A>=A0=0A=0A=0A-- =0AD= avid Leonard=0A=0ATurbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY=0Ahttp://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net=0Ah= ttp://RotaryRoster.net=0A --0-2081756589-1290481169=:37159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ditto for me also...........My EC2 is an early squa= re box and I had to request the 2 BAR
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Subject: [FlyRotary] = Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

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I have one of the early aquare boxes, at that time I did ha= ve to request a special tubo model.  So Tracy must have changed it aft= er you bought yours.
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N= ot that I need or want to waste bins with unused manifold pressures, but is= that something that you program into the EC-2 if it is going to be used wi= th a turbo?   My unit is the rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, = and upgraded in Oct 2007.  it only goes up to 41.8 inches of pressure = in the top bin.???

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O= n Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer <k= eltro@att.net> wrote:

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Kelly Troyer
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Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:24:26 AM
= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trail= ing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

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The top bin, +127, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of m= anifold pressure.  Does yours go higher? 

=0AI just figured that Tracy= had something in mind when he set those limits.  What does the EC-2 d= o when you go outside its limits?  Does it keep everything the same as= the last time it saw an instruction?

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I have no intention of boosting my setup= and I am roughly at sea level, (55 Ft ), so with ram air, I might be able = to see 31 inches.  The rest I will never use.

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You are welcome to bo= rrow them if you like.   :>)

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Bill B

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From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing C= oil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

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Thanks for the detailed reply, as expected, only I can choose my level of = boost and no one has the magic number of when I will run into problems with= detonation.  And who am I kidding by trying to push the limit.  = Inching up the power...  If 45 inches is no problem, then 46" is going= to be OK...

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Unfortunately, having "a = problem" will mean an engine re-build if not another landing on a road.&nbs= p; So I must set an arbitrary limit and stick to it....   =

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(drone voice of Homer Simpson= ): Eight Hundred horse power..

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