X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4588738 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:50:59 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.105; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-85-148-241.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.148.241]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20101122235022H0500hmbsqe>; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:50:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.148.241] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:50:26 -0500 Message-ID: <2517965AB22C4F06B2705173CDA51596@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01CB8A76.21101FF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuKXxdxleYipb0qSC2/knngpLXCYAAQFZzA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CB8A76.21101FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tracy, Not that I need or want to waste bins with unused manifold pressures, but is that something that you program into the EC-2 if it is going to be used with a turbo? My unit is the rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, and upgraded in Oct 2007. it only goes up to 41.8 inches of pressure in the top bin.??? Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:05 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 All EC2/3s in the rectangular box (past 8 years or so) use 2 BAR MAP sensors which work up to 60" Hg MP. Tracy On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: My EC2 "MAP" sensors are for boosted use ( I presume MAP sensors are different for boosted use )...............I have seen what MP it is good for but cannot recall the number off the top of my head !!..............Tracy ??.........Help !! Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ From: Bill Bradburry To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:24:26 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 Dave, The top bin, +127, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of manifold pressure. Does yours go higher? I just figured that Tracy had something in mind when he set those limits. What does the EC-2 do when you go outside its limits? Does it keep everything the same as the last time it saw an instruction? I have no intention of boosting my setup and I am roughly at sea level, (55 Ft ), so with ram air, I might be able to see 31 inches. The rest I will never use. You are welcome to borrow them if you like. :>) Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:25 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20 I have no knowledge of boosted rotary engines. It is a fad. It will go away. Lynn E. Hanover LOL, I have no knowledge either. But that is a different matter. Thanks for the detailed reply, as expected, only I can choose my level of boost and no one has the magic number of when I will run into problems with detonation. And who am I kidding by trying to push the limit. Inching up the power... If 45 inches is no problem, then 46" is going to be OK... Unfortunately, having "a problem" will mean an engine re-build if not another landing on a road. So I must set an arbitrary limit and stick to it.... (drone voice of Homer Simpson): Eight Hundred horse power.. .. No, stick to the boost limit.... ...Eight Hundred horse power... .. This is an airplane, we are not safely on the ground... ..Eight Hundred horse power... .. Stay away from the light, do not go into the light! 45 inches MAP. That is my final word, That is law. -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CB8A76.21101FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tracy,

Not that I need or want to waste = bins with unused manifold pressures, but is that something that you program into = the EC-2 if it is going to be used with a turbo?   My unit is the = rectangular one bought in Oct 2005, and upgraded in Oct 2007.  it only goes up = to 41.8 inches of pressure in the top bin.???

 

Bill B

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Monday, November = 22, 2010 11:05 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

 

All EC2/3s in = the rectangular box (past 8 years or so) use 2 BAR MAP sensors which work up = to 60" Hg MP.

Tracy  =

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> = wrote:

    My EC2 "MAP" = sensors are for boosted use ( I presume MAP sensors are different for =

boosted use )...............I have seen what MP = it is good for but cannot recall the number off

the top of my head !!..............Tracy ??.........Help = !!

   

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA = JD2" = (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E= 50 Turbo

 

 

From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, November 22, = 2010 9:24:26 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

Dave,

The top bin, +127, on my EC-2 is 41.8 inches of manifold pressure.  Does yours go higher?  =

I just figured that Tracy had something in mind when he set those limits.  What does the EC-2 = do when you go outside its limits?  Does it keep everything the same = as the last time it saw an instruction?

I have no intention of boosting my setup and I am roughly at = sea level, (55 Ft ), so with ram air, I might be able to see 31 = inches.  The rest I will never use.

 

You are welcome to borrow them if you like.   = :>)

 

Bill B

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David = Leonard
Sent: Monday, November = 22, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Trailing Coil Disable to Turbo too? Was: N20

 

 

 

I have no knowledge of boosted rotary engines. It is a fad. = It will go away.

 

Lynn E. Hanover  


LOL, I have no knowledge either.  But that is a different = matter.

 

Thanks for the detailed reply, as expected, only I can choose my level of boost and no = one has the magic number of when I will run into problems with detonation.  = And who am I kidding by trying to push the limit.  Inching up the power...  If 45 inches is no problem, then 46" is going to be = OK...

 

Unfortunately, having "a problem" will mean an engine re-build if not another landing on a road.  So I must set an arbitrary limit and stick to it....  

(drone voice of Homer Simpson): Eight Hundred horse = power..

.. = No, stick to the boost limit....

...Eight Hundred horse power...

.. = This is an airplane, we are not safely on the = ground...

..Eight Hundred horse power...

.. = Stay away from the light, do not go into the light!

 

45 = inches MAP.  That is my final word, That is law. =


--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net

 

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