X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4211208 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:10:57 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.43; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100406041022.XQCZ20088.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:10:22 -0400 Received: from willsPC ([174.66.169.142]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id 24AN1e00634gpFS044ANe1; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:10:22 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yjuDh3Ma92GrVaJxYD7gfORM7ilP1Knqouyx6SOEBcg= c=1 sm=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=cPUexvdKvEVW1PN6gG+JiA==:17 a=Hl1Gy0H5AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=64e9-PGQJdTRzdYpQVwA:9 a=DfVkW64mU3chSbqR4oAA:7 a=4JZoY-D89RHv3N5Ba4kN4Wbp97AA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=q3wB2wM02IWqqEJW:21 a=d5AeGnUyLbP7AxyH:21 a=cPUexvdKvEVW1PN6gG+JiA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Weber chokes Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:10:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 George, Well the tuning process doesn't really have anything to do with "electronics". Given my past issues with tuning I'm not really a shining example of how easy it can be. But I'd rather be able to tune by punching a button rather than replacing jets, venturis, needles, whatever. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: "George Lendich" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:36 AM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Weber chokes > Mike, > I'm hearing ya! > I'm not so good with electronics - I need a plug in and play. I hear what > the builders discuss with their programming and such and it leaves me kind > of cold. > I figured if I had Bill as a local tutor I would be fine - however that's > not the case. I have trouble following the schematics of a motorbike. > George (down under) > >> George, >> >> It's a common concern and I hear it all the time from Lyc owners. Since >> they don't understand it they don't trust it. Now a magneto...... Well >> everyone understands and trusts a magneto. For 500 hours. Then you better >> overhaul it because your on borrowed time after that. >> >> Talk to any car owner under the age of 30 and mention a tune up. Most of >> them will look at you like your crazy. These days nobody thinks twice >> about driving 100,000 miles without ever doing anything but changing oil. >> Not even changing spark plugs. I remember my first car in high school. A >> 67 Camaro with a warmed over 396 and dual point distributor - hottest >> ignition going at the time. With a high perf coil I spent more time >> replacing, cleaning, filing, and adjusting points than I did driving the >> car. >> >> Funny that in the example you cited it was the mechanical switch that got >> you, but you immediately went to the more reliable (no moving parts) >> electronic system as the source of the problem. I guess its just human >> nature to assume the worst (been there). >> >> I've given up trying to explain the choices I've made in my airplane. >> People either get it and think its great (rarely), or they think I'm a >> dumb guy with a death wish. Whatever. >> >> Mike Wills >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "George Lendich" >> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:40 PM >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Weber chokes >> >>> >>>> George, >>>> You are correct but remember the manifold efficiency is based on having >>>> the correct size runners to begin with. The venturi is needed to >>>> improve vacuum to draw fuel. The Weber has a secondary venturi as well, >>>> the little bullseye one in the middle. So things are complicated in any >>>> case. A well tuned FI is almost always better. >>>> Bill Jepson >>> >>> Bill, >>> I love the concept of FI, it's the electronics and the complexities of >>> it all that worries me. I think Lynn said it best, FI is almost always >>> better - provided you have power. I couldn't have said it better myself. >>> >>> That statement struck a note for me, as I remember when I was traveling >>> by myself in a very remote part of north Western Australia on a new bike >>> (1800 Suzuki), it's got fuel injection the lot, all of a sudden it >>> stopped and I was thinking %^&(*^$# how in the hell am I going to fix >>> this out here. Luckily by the time it rolled to a stop I realized I had >>> bumped the kill switch - -but for that moment there was a lot of >>> anxiety. >>> George (down under) >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html