X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4183639 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:12:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.56; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-230-67-114.mco.bellsouth.net[74.230.67.114]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20100330141150H06009rlq2e>; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:11:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.230.67.114] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: P-Port performance Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:11:54 -0400 Message-ID: <6F210354B05648EB8052BB8A94AC16BE@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Thread-Index: AcrPx2cuBdzvEvajQxaNGwxBG3b9uwASqA9w George, Why is the Renesis horsepower lower than the standard at 7500 and higher than the standard at 7200? It also is higher at the lower rpm?? Regards the tuned length. I thought the idea was to get a reflected wave to bounce from one inlet to the other just as it was closing. If I understand what you have said, your calculation is how long a tube it would require to hold one charge of air?? Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:10 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: P-Port performance Cary, Ed came to the rescue (once again) and reminded me that was a conversion of inlet speed of 120.58 mph to seconds a minute. I adjusted the attached info sheet, to reflect this information). The maths isn't a problem, however Ed has a knack of knowing how to approach and work through a problem, whereas most of us wouldn't bother. This must be how the engineers do it to get to a start point. I don't know of anyone needing to go to 8,000 rpm and if they did they might need another ratio reduction drive, in that case they might need a slightly larger inlet. However greater VE would need to be driven by a greater inlet velocity and a bigger inlet has a reduced velocity, but I'm sure 120% VE is achievable in the racing game and much higher rpm, much as I would love to see it at our rpm. Then again I would love to be proven wrong. Perhaps with the higher peak inlet speed Tracy indicated was available. We won't know until we get mare data, perhaps from bill, down the track. Knowing how you love to dabble in things, ( nothing wrong with that) I included a calculation for inlet tube length, in this latest attachment - mind you their only ball park figures, but to me it gives a rough start point and an understanding of the processes involved. Hope that helps. I do have some figures on exhaust speed if your interested. George (down under) > Hi George; > > What is the meaning / origin of the value "176.85" in your "Diameter > of Inlet" calculation? > You should also try running your calculation with 8000rpm and 120%VE. > > SAE900032 has a bunch of useful intake and exhaust info including > volumetric efficiency charts versus Pport sizes and intake lengths. > There are other useful SAE papers that Paul posts on the other list > periodically. > > Cheers