X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4125975 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:33:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.78.142; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1FLWttJ025147 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:32:55 -0500 Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.d5d.5b604727 (37055) for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic-d07.mail.aol.com (magic-d07.mail.aol.com [172.19.180.73]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB041-90bf4b79bd8423f; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:32:52 -0500 From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: <134a0.783fc76e.38ab1784@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:32:52 EST Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: PP Housings To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_134a0.783fc76e.38ab1784_boundary" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 75.210.97.176 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.180.73 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: WRJJRS@aol.com --part1_134a0.783fc76e.38ab1784_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 Mike, Don't worry about Alan, he is a great guy, in fact I bought a 20B from=20 him. I just wanted everyone to know where the parts come from. I am unsur= e=20 about the status of the Raytek/Powersport. I can't really comment about = their=20 viability. I agree that things will need to be MUCH cheaper to pull people= =20 away from the Lyc comfort zone. We are rational about that and plan a=20 cheaper system. We will not duplicate the older PS rather update enough= to=20 prevent conflict. We also want to keep it simple. Bill=20 Bill, =20 I didn=E2=80=99t mean to imply that Alan built the FWF stuff - I know tha= t was all=20 Powersport. The entire airplane was a work of art with a completely=20 aluminum cowl with an annular inlet. They wouldn=E2=80=99t make a claim= for FWF weight,=20 but they did say the entire airplane was well under 700 pounds. A typical= =20 RV-3 is in the 730 pound range. =20 I met Alan and Everett at the Copperstate fly-in in the mid 90s and talke= d=20 their ears off. =20 So what does this your effort mean for the current Powersport company? Ar= e=20 they dead and gone? Should we anticipate some sort of legal battle over= IP=20 issues? =20 At the time that I talked with Alan and Everett they still were not=20 selling anything. The current owners of Powersport priced themselves out= of=20 business (at least my business). For all of its warts, at least when you= pay 25K=20 for a Lycosaur you know exactly what you are getting. A FWF package such= =20 as the most recent Powersport, Eggenfellner, etc... that costs as much as= or=20 more than the Lyc with relatively no track record is a dead end in my boo= k. =20 If you guys can come out with the pieces-parts to duplicate that original= =20 engine or a complete engine, without a price tag that breaks the bank, I'= d=20 think you'll have a winner. If the end result is in the same ballpark as= a=20 Lyc, I'd stick with my $3200 Turrentine built 13B. =20 Mike =20 --part1_134a0.783fc76e.38ab1784_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <= FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
Mike,
Don't worry about Alan, he is a great guy, in fact I= bought a=20 20B from him. I just wanted everyone to know where the parts come from. I= am=20 unsure about the status of the Raytek/Powersport. I can't really comment= about=20 their viability. I agree that things will need to be MUCH cheaper to pull= people=20 away from the Lyc comfort zone. We are rational about that and plan a chea= per=20 system. We will not duplicate the older PS rather update enough to pr= event=20 conflict. We also want to keep it simple.
Bill 
Bill,
 
I didn=E2=80=99t mean to imply that= Alan built the FWF=20 stuff - I know that was all Powersport. The entire airplane was a work= of art=20 with a completely aluminum cowl with an annular inlet. They wouldn=E2=80= =99t make a=20 claim for FWF weight, but they did say the entire airplane was well unde= r 700=20 pounds. A typical RV-3 is in the 730 pound range.
 
I met Alan and Everett at the Coppers= tate=20 fly-in in the mid 90s and talked their ears off.
 
So what does this your effort me= an for the=20 current Powersport company? Are they dead and gone? Should we anticipate= some=20 sort of legal battle over IP issues?
 
At the time that I talked with Alan= and Everett=20 they still were not selling anything. The current owners of Powersport= priced=20 themselves out of business (at least my business). For all of its warts,= at=20 least when you pay 25K for a Lycosaur you know exactly what you are gett= ing. A=20 FWF package such as the most recent Powersport, Eggenfellner, etc... tha= t=20 costs as much as or more than the Lyc with relatively no track record is= a=20 dead end in my book.
 
If you guys can come out with the pie= ces-parts=20 to duplicate that original engine or a complete engine, without a price= tag=20 that breaks the bank, I'd think you'll have a winner. If the end result= is in=20 the same ballpark as a Lyc, I'd stick with my $3200 Turrentine built=20 13B.
 
Mike
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