X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet2.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4107220 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:17:17 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.45; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (mail.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.34]) by poplet2.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753191738F6 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 04:16:35 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 43EC2BEC11B for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 04:12:40 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <14FFA5645E174B3C88EC356381CDE4C9@ownerf1fc517b8> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 13B in a Chubby Cubby ... was Tiff to CAD Software Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:12:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CAA3CE.BC592630" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100201-0, 02/01/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CAA3CE.BC592630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, I stand corrected. I just had a quick look on the internet. Yep, 4 place = surely needs the 13B. Confusion aside I'm glad your thicker rad works well for you George = (down under) Hi George, maybe you have a Chubby Cubby confused with an ultralight = Cubby ... my airplane is a Wag-Aero copy of the PA-14 family cruiser, a = 4-place super cub if you like. At 1300 lbs empty and with 2200 lb gross = the 13B is not overkill ... se attached photo. Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of George Lendich [lendich@aanet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:50 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD Software Jeff, The 13B is probably way overkill for this aircraft, you must be = running low RPM and the heat dissipation would be low also. Ever thought = of a single rotor engine. George ( down under) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD Software Mike, I=92ve got a 13B NA, flying a =93Chubby Cubby=94 =96 110 mph = airplane. Jeff From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Mike Wills Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:20 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD Software Figures I'd make a statement like that and have somebody prove me = wrong. I cant remember Jeff, what airframe and what engine are you = running? Mike Wills=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:51 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD Software FWIW, I my radiator core is 5.5=94 thick x 5.5=94 high x 20=94 wide = =85 it cools =85 JWW From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of George Lendich Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:49 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD Software Thomas, I like your approach to the problem, I see nothing but positive = outcomes in proving the concept (one way or another). 3.5" is ( I = believe) OK, the thick verses thin debate is like comparing apples and = oranges given the different applications of cars and aircraft. I don't = know what speed your looking at in cruise but 3.5" should be good for a = higher cruise. I believe some have used 3" cores successfully. However = I'm no expert but I look forward to the outcomes. George ( down under) Mike, The graphic is not a true representation of the final design. It = merely depicts an unmodified P-51 scoop that has been rendered in CAD, = scaled 61% and rotated lightly in the clockwise direction. My actual radiator design has a frontal area of 203 sq in and a = depth of 3.5 in.=20 As stated earlier, the purpose of the post was to announce my = willingness to share a software program that I had developed and found = useful. T Mann This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only = for the addressee and may contain privileged or confidential = information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you = have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so = that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the = original message. Thank you. This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only = for the addressee and may contain privileged or confidential = information. 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 Jeff,
I stand corrected. I just had a quick = look on the=20 internet. Yep, 4 place surely needs the 13B.
Confusion aside I'm glad your thicker = rad works=20 well for you George (down = under)
Hi George, = maybe you have=20 a Chubby Cubby confused with an ultralight Cubby ... my airplane is a = Wag-Aero=20 copy of the PA-14 family cruiser, a 4-place super cub if you like. At = 1300 lbs=20 empty and with 2200 lb gross the 13B is not overkill ... se attached=20 photo.
Jeff
From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich=20 [lendich@aanet.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:50 = PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Tiff to CAD Software

Jeff,
The 13B is probably way overkill for = this=20 aircraft, you must be running low RPM and the heat dissipation would = be low=20 also. Ever thought of a single rotor engine.
George ( down under)
----- Original Message -----
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, January 31, = 2010 3:14=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff = to CAD=20 Software

Mike,=20 I=92ve got a 13B NA, flying a =93Chubby Cubby=94 =96 110 mph = airplane.

Jeff

 

From: = Rotary motors=20 in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Mike=20 Wills
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:20 = PM
To: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to CAD=20 Software

 

Figures=20 I'd make a statement like that and have somebody prove me wrong. I = cant=20 remember Jeff, what airframe and what engine are you=20 running?

 

Mike=20 Wills 

 

From: Jeff=20 Whaley

Sent: = Friday, January=20 29, 2010 2:51 PM

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Tiff to CAD Software

 

FWIW,=20 I my radiator core is 5.5=94 thick x 5.5=94 high x 20=94 wide =85 it = cools =85=20   JWW

 

From: = Rotary motors=20 in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = George=20 Lendich
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:49 = PM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tiff to = CAD=20 Software

 

 

Thomas,

I like = your=20 approach to the problem, I see nothing but positive outcomes in = proving the=20 concept (one way or another). 3.5" is ( I believe) OK, the thick = verses thin=20 debate is like comparing apples and oranges given the different = applications=20 of cars and aircraft. I don't know what speed your looking at in = cruise but=20 3.5" should be good for a higher cruise. I believe some have used 3" = cores=20 successfully. However I'm no expert but I look forward to the=20 outcomes.

George = ( down=20 under)

Mike,

The=20 graphic is not a true representation of the final design. It = merely=20 depicts an unmodified P-51 scoop that has been rendered in CAD, = scaled 61%=20 and rotated lightly in  the clockwise direction.

 

My=20 actual radiator design has a frontal area of 203 sq in and a depth = of 3.5=20 in.

 

As=20 stated earlier, the purpose of the post was to announce my = willingness to=20 share a software program that I had developed and found = useful.

 

T=20 Mann


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