X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.240.59] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.1) with ESMTP id 4084644 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:04:57 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.59; envelope-from=tmann@n200lz.com Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100116040423.EYQT18765.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:04:23 -0500 Received: from testPC ([98.168.254.7]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id W44N1d0030ALyG20244NR0; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:04:22 -0500 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=FH51oeu+1X08ltvBTlHolcDUHFauRgb+9oFgHbwYNT8= c=1 sm=1 a=u3n+HnEbI1wdzZeyJY7NnA==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=LK4XTWAYng5PXPn-dWoA:9 a=8nyJaihDs6b66d67Wayql9qb31wA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Ah_JJBdoZFbqrmfZdugA:9 a=bNIO8kWWjQgC45Bi69cA:7 a=f2jeIZKMZSFcemuCUunAPorHyxUA:4 a=u3n+HnEbI1wdzZeyJY7NnA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: "Thomas Mann" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Taxi Testing Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:04:27 -0600 Message-ID: <004201ca9660$ff3e24d0$fdba6e70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA962E.B4A3B4D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcqWXcS4c3v7rl2fTRWQLPyyIw0IdQAAJnxQ Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA962E.B4A3B4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just be sure and leave the canard off if you don't have the wings on... In one of the early CPs (Canard Pusher newsletter for you non-canard types) there was a builder who had his engine mounted as well as his canard and when he needed to talk to some other builders on the other side of the airport, he would fire up the engine and drive it over to the other side of the airport. One day during the return trip he decided to setup on the numbers and give it a shot. It was tracking great and he was approaching rotate speed so he gave it a little back pressure to see if the canard would come up. It did but it rose up so high that the prop began striking the runway, The canard would not respond to any control inputs because of the AOA it had achieved. Now the prop is hitting the pavement so hard it's causing the plane to pull to one side. Eventually it became totally uncontrollable and left the runway coming to rest inverted. Fortunately the tower was observing and got him some help right away. Of course the FAA had to be involved as well. It turns out that they did not cite the pilot. Drum roll please .... Because there were no wings on the plane ... they determined there was 'no intention to fly.' From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe Ewen Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:42 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Taxi Testing For those Canard drivers out there: Does anyone know of or can think of any reason why I should not perform some taxi testing without wings or canard in place. I would like to trailer my 173 to the airport to run some taxi testing to record data on my cooling system, but do not want to install the wings and canard since I will be bringing it back home after the test. I do realize that rudder authority would be a poor, so this would only be done on a calm day. Thanks, Joe ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01CA962E.B4A3B4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just be sure and leave the canard off if you don’t = have the wings on…..

In one of the early CPs (Canard Pusher newsletter for you non-canard types) there was a builder who had his engine mounted as well = as his canard and when he needed to talk to some other builders on the other = side of the airport, he would fire up the engine and drive it over to the other = side of the airport.

One day during the return trip he decided to setup on the numbers and give it a shot.

It was tracking great and he was approaching rotate speed = so he gave it a little back pressure to see if the canard would come up. It = did but it rose up so high that the prop began striking the runway, The canard = would not respond to any control inputs because of the AOA it had = achieved.

Now the prop is hitting the pavement so hard it’s = causing the plane to pull to one side. Eventually it became totally = uncontrollable and left the runway coming to rest inverted. Fortunately the tower was = observing and got him some help right away.

Of course the FAA had to be involved as well. It turns = out that they did not cite the pilot.

Drum roll please ……..

Because there were no wings on the plane = ……… they determined there was ‘no intention to = fly.’

From:= Rotary = motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe = Ewen
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:42 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Taxi Testing

For those Canard drivers out there:

Does anyone know of or can think of any reason why I should not perform some = taxi testing without wings or canard in place. I would like to trailer = my 173 to the airport to run some taxi testing to record data on my cooling = system, but do not want to install the wings and canard since I will be bringing = it back home after the test. I do realize that rudder authority would = be a poor, so this would only be done on a calm day.

Thanks,

Joe

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