X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet2.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.1) with ESMTP id 4082980 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:40:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.45; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (mail.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.34]) by poplet2.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17E3173746 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:39:35 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 59398BEC009 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:39:34 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <76F958D1C8EC4A5690AF9BB876AEB45F@ownerf1fc517b8> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Scoops Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:39:36 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100114-1, 01/14/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Thomas, Nice research. I found my notes on inclined radiators, they state 1. 0-20/30* will decrease cooling and increase drag. 2. Over 30* things improve. 3. At approx 55* cooling effectiveness is 30% greater than non-inclined rads and drag is less by 20%. If this was followed the height of the duct would be reduced significantly. Put that in your drawing and see what it looks like. George ( down under) As far as the shape of the diffuser, a classic example is the P-51. The problem is getting a true scaled image of the setup. Attached is a cleaned up version of an actual NA blueprint of the scoop/diffuser. I'm in the process of converting the digitized microfiche image to a CAD drawing. Even with the files, it's a matter of combining multiple drawings to get a true image. The attached does not detail the opening of the scoop which is slanted at about 45 degrees. That involves plotting from a different drawing to acquire that detail. As you can see from the drawing the inlet is divided to service both the oil cooler and the radiator with separate exhausts. The inlet is only about 7 inches tall. The radiator consists of a engine cooler (395 sq in) and an intercooler (150 sq in). The core itself is 21 inches thick. Pretty massive. The slope appears to conform to the 7 degree rule right up to the point where it meets the radiator. No big changes in the walls. Very smooth transitions. Also, you can see the radiator does sit at a slight angle. The idea is to draft the setup in AutoCAD and then scale the drawing to fit my application and start from there. There are literally thousands of drawings to sort through but I'm starting to make sense of it. T Mann -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >