Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #49638
From: Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: first flight of the new year
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:47:05 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Dave (and Al),
 
 Thanks for the data points. I havent done any experimenting yet with lean of peak ops. My EGTs seem to be pretty well balanced with only a 10 - 20 degree spread max at cruise settings. So I should be pretty well set for LOP, just havent messed with it yet.
 
French Valley is outside my test area. So far I havent really flown anywhere but Borrego and back, but I'm going to start expanding that a little. The trip to Borrego is getting boring.
 
Mike 

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: first flight of the new year

Again, my experience is very similar to Al's.  I cruse between 6k' and 17k' depending on the winds.  That gives quite a range of variables.  Interestingly though, regardless of altitude and RPM etc, about 8 gph seems to hit the narrow sweet spot with my EGT's (actually TOT) below 900C (about 1600F) and yet the engine not running too rough (giving me about 155KTAS).  Yes, the RPM decreases quite noticeably when going to the lean side of peak and the engine is not as smooth (I have grown used to it, but I think Al really notices when he flies in my plane).  In order to help my turbo last longer, I avoid peak EGT pretty religiously (that seems to be working so far, over 200 hrs on current turbo).  At the lean setting, the O2 sensor off the lean end of the scale.
 
Because of my turbo Manifold, I am unable to install individual EGT sensors for each rotor, so my rotors are still slightly unbalanced (probably most of the problem with roughness).  Besides, even if you were able to get them perfectly balanced at one RPM, it would change slightly at a different RPM/power setting. 
 
Without the turbo, you should be able to safely run closer to peak EGT or best power without risk of damaging anything.
 
--
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

 

For cruise do you lean enough that you notice any reduction in engine RPM? What sort of fuel flows, manifold pressure, and cruise speeds are you getting and at what altitude?

 

For it to run well very lean the mixtures to the rotors need to be balanced – similar EGTs; so you may want to do whatever mode that is.  You can get a handle on good lean cruise and max power by watching the EGT.  I tend to run about 100 lean of peak for cruise.  Although it will do fine leaner, it doesn’t fell quite as smooth. You’ll have to add some throttle to maintain rpm. Max power is somewhere about 150+ rich of peak IIRC from the dyno runs.

 

I typically cruise 5400-5500 rpm, 9.5 – 10.5 Kft, maybe 9.7 gph on my 3-rotor; so you should get the 2-rotor in the area of 6.5. That gives me 165+ KTAS in my 4-place Velocity – not bad.  Could get better economy going slower, but unless I’m just sight-seeing, I wanna get there.

 

Does your test area extend to French Valley?

Al

 




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