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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:45:40 -0800
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Hey Ed'
How come that there triangle thingy ain't on my keyboard??........(:-)
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG, struggling to get airborne
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ed Anderson=20
  To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:24 PM
  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo=20


  I think while there are lot of Nifty looking gadgets out there, you =
need to keep in mind that what may work well for a piston engine in =
cooling oil may not for the rotary.  The basic reason is the rotary =
dumps approx 1/3 of its total waste heat load (not counting exhaust =
heat) through the oil.  In fact, you can calculate the approx BTU you =
must get rid of through the oil.

  =20

  A 13B turning 6500 rpm with an 12.65 (best power) air fuel ratio will =
be flowing approx 16.1 gallons per hour.  This equates to needing to get =
rid of approx  2650 BTU/MIN of waste heat  through the oil cooler.  Now =
using the old heat transfer  equation  Q =3D BTU, M =3D mass flow and Dt =
=3D temp difference, cp (air =3D 0.25)

  Q =3D M*Dt*cp  and assuming you heat up the air so that it exits 100 =
deg F hotter than it went into the cooler, then solving for the air mass =
M required =3D  Q/ Dt*cp  =3D 2650 /100*0.25 =3D 106 lbms/min or 106 =
pounds of air per minute.

  =20

  A cubic foot of air at sea level =3D approx 0.0765 lb/cubic foot.  So =
to get 106 lbms/min you need to have 106/0.0765

  =3D 1385 CFM of air flow through the oil cooler.  Now that is a =
sizeable amount of air required just for the oil cooler at a modest =
power output of 160 HP. =20

  =20

  My point, is that, before you go spending your money and adding weight =
and complexity to your installation, sit down and determine what each =
element will do for you and whether it is really worth the money and =
weight.

  =20

  My person opinion is that it is hard to beat the efficiency of a well =
position oil cooler with adequate airflow through it.

  =20

  But, just my opinion.  Certainly there are cases where a small cooling =
 assist might make the difference and these things might make the =
difference.  In some cases, space precludes the idea solution and in =
that case oil/water heat exchangers and other methods are called for.  =20

  =20

  But, if you are in the planning stages, my suggestion is strive to get =
the right sized oil cooler positioned with good air flow.

  =20

  Ed

  =20

  =20

  =20

  =20

  Ed Anderson

  Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered

  Matthews, NC

  eanderson@carolina.rr.com

  http://www.andersonee.com

  http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html

  http://www.flyrotary.com/

  http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW

  http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm


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  From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] =
On Behalf Of william singer
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 4:51 PM
  To: Rotary motors in aircraft
  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo=20

  =20

  Modine makes such coolers.  My Ford Thunderbirds (89 to95) have them.  =
wiliam singer

    ----- Original Message -----=20

    From: sboese=20

    To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20

    Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:26 AM

    Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo=20

    =20

    Our 1992 Honda Accord EX Wagon has a oil to water heat exchanger =
that is sandwiched between the oil filter and the engine block.  It is =
about 2=94 thick, the same diameter as the filter, and mounts with a =
longer hollow stud than would be used to mount the filter directly to =
the block.  I have no idea of its capacity.

    =20

    Steve Boese

    =20

    =20

    =20

    =20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] =
On Behalf Of Thomas Mann
    Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:03 AM
    To: Rotary motors in aircraft
    Subject: [FlyRotary] Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo=20

    =20

    =85.does anyone know of an oil filter mount that includes a heat =
exchanger?

    =20

    T Mann



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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DCityBlueprint>Hey Ed'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DCityBlueprint>How come that there =
triangle thingy=20
ain't on my keyboard??........(:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DCityBlueprint>Greg Ward</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 face=3DCityBlueprint>Lancair 20B N178RG, =
struggling to=20
get airborne</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Deanderson@carolina.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com">Ed=20
  Anderson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dflyrotary@lancaironline.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">Rotary motors in =
aircraft</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 18, 2009 =
5:24=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [FlyRotary] Re: =
Radiator/Oil=20
  Cooler Combo </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think =
while there=20
  are lot of Nifty looking gadgets out there, you need to keep in mind =
that what=20
  may work well for a piston engine in cooling oil may not for the =
rotary.&nbsp;=20
  The basic reason is the rotary dumps approx 1/3 of its total waste =
heat load=20
  (not counting exhaust heat) through the oil.&nbsp; In fact, you can =
calculate=20
  the approx BTU you must get rid of through the=20
  oil.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">A 13B =
turning 6500=20
  rpm with an 12.65 (best power) air fuel ratio will be flowing approx =
16.1=20
  gallons per hour.&nbsp; This equates to needing to get rid of approx=20
  &nbsp;2650 BTU/MIN of waste heat &nbsp;through the oil cooler.&nbsp; =
Now using=20
  the old heat transfer &nbsp;equation &nbsp;Q =3D BTU, M =3D mass flow =
and=20
  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D4 face=3DSymbol><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
14pt">D</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">t =3D temp =
difference,=20
  cp (air =3D 0.25)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Q =3D=20
  M*</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D4 face=3DSymbol><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
14pt">D</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">t*cp&nbsp; =
and=20
  assuming you heat up the air so that it exits 100 deg F hotter than it =
went=20
  into the cooler, then solving for the air mass M required =3D &nbsp;Q/ =

  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D4 face=3DSymbol><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
14pt">D</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">t*cp&nbsp; =
=3D 2650=20
  /100*0.25 =3D 106 lbms/min or 106 pounds of air per=20
  minute.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">A cubic =
foot of air=20
  at sea level =3D approx 0.0765 lb/cubic foot.&nbsp; So to get 106 =
lbms/min you=20
  need to have 106/0.0765<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=3D 1385 =
CFM of air=20
  flow through the oil cooler.&nbsp; Now that is a sizeable amount of =
air=20
  required just for the oil cooler at a modest power output of 160 =
HP.&nbsp;=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My point, =
is that,=20
  before you go spending your money and adding weight and complexity to =
your=20
  installation, sit down and determine what each element will do for you =
and=20
  whether it is really worth the money and =
weight.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My person =
opinion is=20
  that it is hard to beat the efficiency of a well position oil cooler =
with=20
  adequate airflow through it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">But, just =
my=20
  opinion.&nbsp; Certainly there are cases where a small cooling =
&nbsp;assist=20
  might make the difference and these things might make the =
difference.&nbsp; In=20
  some cases, space precludes the idea solution and in that case =
oil/water heat=20
  exchangers and other methods are called for.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">But, if you =
are in=20
  the planning stages, my suggestion is strive to get the right sized =
oil cooler=20
  positioned with good air flow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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  <P><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =
lang=3DEN>Ed=20
  Anderson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =
lang=3DEN>Rv-6A N494BW=20
  Rotary Powered<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =
lang=3DEN>Matthews,=20
  NC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.andersonee.com"><SPAN=20
  =
lang=3DEN>http://www.andersonee.com</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></=
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  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">=20
  <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in aircraft</st1:PersonName> =

  [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
  Behalf Of </SPAN></B>william singer<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 18, 2009 =
4:51=20
  PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
<st1:PersonName=20
  w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in aircraft</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [FlyRotary] Re: =
Radiator/Oil=20
  Cooler Combo </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Modine makes such =
coolers.&nbsp;=20
  My Ford Thunderbirds (89 to95) have them.&nbsp; wiliam=20
  singer</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original Message =
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    face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> <A=20
    title=3Dsboese@uwyo.edu href=3D"mailto:sboese@uwyo.edu">sboese</A>=20
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> <A=20
    title=3Dflyrotary@lancaironline.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net">Rotary motors in =
aircraft</A>=20
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> Friday,=20
    December 18, 2009 10:26 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
    size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">=20
    [FlyRotary] Re: Radiator/Oil Cooler Combo=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Our 1992 =
Honda=20
    Accord EX Wagon has a oil to water heat exchanger that is sandwiched =
between=20
    the oil filter and the engine block.&nbsp; It is about 2=94 thick, =
the same=20
    diameter as the filter, and mounts with a longer hollow stud than =
would be=20
    used to mount the filter directly to the block.&nbsp; I have no idea =
of its=20
    capacity.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Steve=20
    Boese</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
    Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
    <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in =
aircraft</st1:PersonName>=20
    [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
    Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Thomas Mann<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 18, =
2009 9:03=20
    AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
<st1:PersonName=20
    w:st=3D"on">Rotary motors in aircraft</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [FlyRotary] =
Radiator/Oil=20
    Cooler Combo </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D2=20
    face=3DCalibri><SPAN=20
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11pt">=85.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
    color=3D#1f497d size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">does =
anyone=20
    know of an oil filter mount that includes a heat=20
    exchanger?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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    face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
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    Mann</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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