X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.212] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3892994 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:16:46 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.203.212; envelope-from=btilley@mchsi.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=mchsi.com; s=dkim01; i=btilley@mchsi.com; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1256080607; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=tobrMy 10qwB4IgaeyTPJrgmNE6V64aYaXC3TH+coYzA=; b=sGAni67WR1EDHSNjV+U1q5R0n 3ZPiiFGimabJkSmh8taqtDDLHaRc7O3u4XThJBTBUqVTq7sb4jWkcudoH53XA== Received: from sccqwbc17 (scommcenter17.asp.att.net[204.127.203.179]) by mchsi.com (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20091020231601m9200r6m8ne>; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:16:11 +0000 Received: from [98.66.66.233] by sccqwbc17; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:16:01 +0000 From: btilley@mchsi.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] New to the list Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:16:01 +0000 Message-Id: <102020092316.27488.4ADE44B1000009D700006B60223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF970A0404079B0D@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YnRpbGxleUBtY2hzaS5jb20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ryan' Welcome to the flyrotary list!? You didn't mention your engine choice so I= have to "assume" it's a rotary. Are you here to choose which rotary will b= est fit your needs? You have a couple years to decide if you are going to = be building an XL5. That seems like a good fit for your needs. Here (Rotary= list) you will probably need a 3 rotor or a 2 rotor that is pushed near it= 's limits. But since you have a couple years you could wait for the new 16X= engine that Mazda is supposed to be bringing out. Now to the XL5, You should join the Canard Aviators list along with the man= y Velocity lists. You will find a lot of good info there. You also sound li= ke you want to "get her done" sooner than I think what will be possible. Y= ou should seriously consider buying a partially completed project. If I we= re starting with the info I have now I would probably go that route. Hope t= his helps! Bob Tilley Cozy MKIV Albany, Ga -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Ryan Wilkins > > Hello All. >=20 > I'm new to this list and wanted to take a (hopefully) brief moment to=20= =20 > introduce myself. I'm Ryan Wilkins and I presently live in the burbs=20= =20 > of Chicago (near Schaumburg) with my wife and two young kids. Flying=20= =20 > has always been an interest of mine since very early in life. My=20=20 > father flew Lear Jets, my mother obtained her private, and my step-=20 > father is currently a Captain on the 757 / 767 for Continental=20=20 > Airlines. I followed in the family foot steps by starting my flight=20= =20 > training in 1999 and working gradually through my Commercial Single.=20= =20=20 > I came within a hair of getting my Multi but the airplane broke on my=20= =20 > last ride before the check ride, and it broke hard. I ended up moving=20= =20 > to Chicago from the West side of Cleveland, OH before the airplane=20=20 > came back online and haven't flown since. That was almost 3 years=20=20 > ago. A flying career was my goal but gradually fell out of love with=20= =20 > that line of work. How someone can start at the bottom of the pilot=20= =20 > seniority list and expect to be able to live is beyond me. >=20 > What brings me to the homebuilt aircraft industry are my parent's and=20= =20 > my wife's parent's plans to move away from the Cleveland area and my=20= =20 > desire to get back into flying. Somehow I have this delusion that=20=20 > flying SouthWest will be really expensive for all of us to go visit=20=20 > relatives and that it'd be better to fly ourselves. I was also=20=20 > intrigued by the ability to build an airplane the way I want it and=20=20 > with what I want in it without incurring a prohibitive cost. Being a=20= =20 > reasonably mechanically inclined person, I also really like the idea=20= =20 > of being able to work on my own airplane without investing in an A&P=20= =20 > license. I feel that building and flying my own plane opens unique=20=20 > opportunities to me and my family that the majority of the public do=20= =20 > not have available to them. In addition, I'm always yearning to learn=20= =20 > something new and I feel that undertaking a large project like this=20=20 > will afford me knowledge and experience that I otherwise would not=20=20 > attain. Of course, the sense of accomplishment and personal=20=20 > satisfaction that will come once the kit flies can't go without mention. >=20 > The criteria that I used to find a kit started with cruise around 200=20= =20 > MPH (I've had enough of flying a 172 around the pattern.. not a bad=20=20 > airplane.. just want to go somewhere else and faster. ), ability=20= =20 > to take 5 people (2 adults + 3 kids), ~1000 mi range (the kids will=20=20 > never last that long), total cost around or under $100k excluding=20=20 > labor, and the ability to certify for IFR flight (mainly looking to=20=20 > punch through low cloud decks and not kill a day at an airport waiting=20= =20 > for clouds to open up). The 5 seats seemed to really limit my=20=20 > search. After finding a number of airplanes, I've settled on the=20=20 > Velocity XL5. Will probably do the fixed gear model because of=20=20 > insurance reasons. Also interested in not spending all of my budget=20= =20 > on an engine so that's why I'm here. As it turns out, I've got a=20=20 > business meeting in Orlando on 4-Nov so it offered the perfect=20=20 > opportunity for me to hit the AOPA Aviation Summit in Tampa and also=20= =20 > take a demo flight and tour the factory at Velocity in Sebastian, FL.=20= =20=20 > Having spent a lot of time researching the Velocity, it seems that a=20= =20 > lot of people are happy with the plane. My guess is that's what I'll=20= =20 > end up buying and building. I'm also in the unique position to have=20= =20 > an office located on DuPage County Airport Property (KDPA) at a former=20= =20 > heliport. The previous tenants operated an air ambulance service and=20= =20 > did some or all of their maintenance at the facility. While we don't=20= =20 > have direct runway access, the building has an abundance of climate=20=20 > controlled space where I can build the airplane and not get in the way=20= =20 > of other work related projects. I've read from numerous people that=20= =20 > just the travel time between home, work, and building area if not at=20= =20 > home or work takes a big toll on the project. >=20 > Well anyway this has turned out to be longer than I really want it to=20= =20 > be so I apologize for monopolizing your time. I look forward to=20=20 > interacting with all of you on the list. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Ryan Wilkins >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html