X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3892324 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:01:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.111; envelope-from=delta11xd@att.net Received: (qmail 66138 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2009 14:01:22 -0000 Message-ID: <9547.62665.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ee1l_e0VM1mzMpEvHci2ehIvpKZM8njaAecKuPlxmjuqToZlrXVqk8yGIE_p6rc2gfmsdT3_UNlT1AxOJG6hrolNK0kx.J1Wi3OhJRDta.rub.x805YPFg.P4QK84sbWjmJMeFWVnF2M2rKYSPF7X.tPkpVzntNb_d78Ktnx9IVnyitGliQjll_j5WfWClddZB000DHGnAaiF.ITREiq5PNE_y7mlAA9rCOk3A1n4ftCOgCJvsNIarOJcTproalwrzyS.TzgNoRBDaNsd53Jlb4a8X6OHf.ogp457Xxoeuvu4v52KqGF8bFcZ9mEG3cBhTvS5SJnKX_qVs0ZzbC4MsZjMTyP5g-- Received: from [75.58.118.135] by web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:01:21 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: James Maher Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1552637575-1256047281=:62665" --0-1552637575-1256047281=:62665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the most common method would be to use cowl flap(s) to block t= he air exit from the cowl. =C2=A0 Jim --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino wrote: From: Rino Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 4:19 PM =EF=BB=BF=20 No thermostat for either.=C2=A0 I have to find other ways to control the te= mp. I want to control the air flow.=C2=A0=20 What is the best way, block the air flow at the front or the back of the en= gine and rads? =C2=A0 Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Maher=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Rino, Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your system? If you did you should not see such low temps. =C2=A0 Jim --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino wrote: From: Rino Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:39 PM #yiv1548535557 UNKNOWN { FONT-FAMILY:Calibri;} #yiv1548535557 UNKNOWN { MARGIN:1in;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 P.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:windowtext;} #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 .MsoChpDefault { } #yiv1548535557 #yiv80808111 DIV.Section1 { } both oil and water temp were about 125 F on final to landing which I feel i= s too cold for a landing overshoot.=C2=A0 I normally take off when the oil = temp is 140 F or more.=C2=A0 I would like to see above 160 temp all the tim= e for oil and water. =C2=A0 Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Rino and Group: I=E2=80=99m curious about the comments with regards to the cold engine=C2= =A0 =E2=80=A6 are you more concerned about oil or water temp? Lynn has posted several times that oil temperatures ABOVE 160F rob power fr= om the rotary, so that should mean oil temps below 160F are a good thing.= =20 How low is too low?=20 On my last flight the oil temp was about 135F in cruise =E2=80=A6 with synt= hetic or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for example), low oil temps should not = be problem.=20 Jeff=20 =C2=A0=20 Rino posted:=20 How long do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis engine.=20 My engine is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs.=20 I have to say that it is also running too cold, it goes down to=C2=A0about = 160 F (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is usually 3500 rp= m.=C2=A0 I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail RE9B.=20 =C2=A0=20 I am trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the moment.=C2=A0 OAT= =C2=A0 between 30 and 40 F.=20 I will have to build shutters to control the engine temp.=20 =C2=A0=20 Last month the engine was too hot, now it is too cold.=C2=A0 I did modify t= he air ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 rad.=20 =C2=A0=20 Rino Lacombe=20 Renesis powered Glass Goose=20 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 --0-1552637575-1256047281=:62665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think that the most common method woul= d be to use cowl flap(s) to block the
air exit from the cowl.
 
Jim

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>= ; wrote:

From: Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject= : [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs
To: "Rotary motors in air= craft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Monday, October 19, 200= 9, 4:19 PM

=EF=BB=BF=20
No thermostat for either.  I have to = find other ways to control the temp. I want to control the air flow.  =
What is the best way, block the air flow a= t the front or the back of the engine and rads?
 
Rino
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:16 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ..= . was Spark Plugs

Rino,
Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your system?
If you did you should not see such low temps.
 
Jim

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca= > wrote:

From: Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subj= ect: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs
To: "Rotary motors in = aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: M= onday, October 19, 2009, 12:39 PM

both oil and water temp were about 125 F o= n final to landing which I feel is too cold for a landing overshoot.  = I normally take off when the oil temp is 140 F or more.  I would like = to see above 160 temp all the time for oil and water.
 
Rino
----- Original Message -----

I=E2=80=99m curious about the comments with r= egards to the cold engine  =E2=80=A6 are you more concerned about oil = or water temp?

Lynn has posted several times that oil temper= atures ABOVE 160F rob power from the rotary, so that should mean oil temps = below 160F are a good thing.=20

How low is too low?=20

On my last flight the oil temp was about 135F= in cruise =E2=80=A6 with synthetic or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for examp= le), low oil temps should not be problem.=20

Jeff=20

 =20

Rino posted:=20

How long do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis engine.= =20

My engine is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs.I have to say that it is also running too cold, it goes down = to about 160 F (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is u= sually 3500 rpm.  I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail RE= 9B.=20

 =20

I am trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the momen= t.  OAT  between 30 and 40 F.=20

I will have to build shutters to control the engine temp.=20

 =20

Last month the engine was too hot, now it is too cold.  = I did modify the air ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 rad.= =20

 =20

Rino Lacombe=20

Renesis powered Glass Goose=20

 =20

 =20

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