X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.109] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3891162 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:17:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.109; envelope-from=delta11xd@att.net Received: (qmail 89461 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2009 18:16:28 -0000 Message-ID: <489396.85890.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qsqgshkVM1lwIT3m35C8b5FVi41s1rSypJoNoq5RbyOA4JMMSXOzhV9TD3iYOlX4VSbzhUcZ04hmc8OnNT4tosCJwIzPKJetF0XOkQmP9z3rzYLby29qDldu6lSbmIMweI0a1yhUFryY7XgyOpIPSK6XEMOPjohnoBK892addjIZbPOjrLNlj2awOdqQEqDWlOfOoGCR3u52CmYLeE7SdgEbcPHnDi5HNJgXl.cJ6Okt9lDidbW5cTtiIVkbiYOST8FV3HI3bP6GXRNg5JGTlbHIgm.vHiKiBocj98RCietZSZk3TZ55wFbh4vlNdCxrn3xyZmij072ByIz0kZmbojbRQsBtVg-- Received: from [75.58.118.135] by web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:16:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:16:28 -0700 (PDT) From: James Maher Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2143619203-1255976188=:85890" --0-2143619203-1255976188=:85890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rino, Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your system? If you did you should not see such low temps. =C2=A0 Jim --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino wrote: From: Rino Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:39 PM _filtered #yiv80808111 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv80808111 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv80808111 P.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv80808111 LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv80808111 DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";FONT-SIZE:11pt;} #yiv80808111 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv80808111 SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv80808111 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv80808111 SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv80808111 SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri", "sans-serif";COLOR:windowtext;} #yiv80808111 .MsoChpDefault { } #yiv80808111 DIV.Section1 { } both oil and water temp were about 125 F on final to landing which I feel i= s too cold for a landing overshoot.=C2=A0 I normally take off when the oil = temp is 140 F or more.=C2=A0 I would like to see above 160 temp all the tim= e for oil and water. =C2=A0 Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Rino and Group: I=E2=80=99m curious about the comments with regards to the cold engine=C2= =A0 =E2=80=A6 are you more concerned about oil or water temp? Lynn has posted several times that oil temperatures ABOVE 160F rob power fr= om the rotary, so that should mean oil temps below 160F are a good thing. How low is too low? On my last flight the oil temp was about 135F in cruise =E2=80=A6 with synt= hetic or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for example), low oil temps should not = be problem. Jeff =C2=A0 Rino posted: How long do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis engine. My engine is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs. I have to say that it is also running too cold, it goes down to=C2=A0about = 160 F (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is usually 3500 rp= m.=C2=A0 I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail RE9B. =C2=A0 I am trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the moment.=C2=A0 OAT= =C2=A0 between 30 and 40 F. I will have to build shutters to control the engine temp. =C2=A0 Last month the engine was too hot, now it is too cold.=C2=A0 I did modify t= he air ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 rad. =C2=A0 Rino Lacombe Renesis powered Glass Goose =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --0-2143619203-1255976188=:85890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rino,
Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your system?
If you did you should not see such low temps.
 
Jim

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>= ; wrote:

From: Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject= : [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs
To: "Rotary motors in air= craft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Monday, October 19, 200= 9, 12:39 PM

both oil and water temp were about 125 F o= n final to landing which I feel is too cold for a landing overshoot.  = I normally take off when the oil temp is 140 F or more.  I would like = to see above 160 temp all the time for oil and water.
 
Rino
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:02= PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ..= . was Spark Plugs

Rino and Group:

I=E2=80=99m curious about the comments with r= egards to the cold engine  =E2=80=A6 are you more concerned about oil = or water temp?

Lynn has posted several times that oil temper= atures ABOVE 160F rob power from the rotary, so that should mean oil temps = below 160F are a good thing.

How low is too low?

On my last flight the oil temp was about 135F= in cruise =E2=80=A6 with synthetic or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for examp= le), low oil temps should not be problem.

Jeff

 

Rino posted:

How long do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis engine.=

My engine is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs.I have to say that it is also running too cold, it goes down = to about 160 F (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is u= sually 3500 rpm.  I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail RE= 9B.

 

I am trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the momen= t.  OAT  between 30 and 40 F.

I will have to build shutters to control the engine temp.

 

Last month the engine was too hot, now it is too cold.  = I did modify the air ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 rad.=

 

Rino Lacombe

Renesis powered Glass Goose

 

 

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