X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f184.google.com ([209.85.221.184] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3875573 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:48:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.184; envelope-from=david.staten@gmail.com Received: by qyk14 with SMTP id 14so2896161qyk.26 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pmYd5+wvfsHSywldZckTxvyIqly7iJfzBKMZskUs8J4=; b=mwWC72rFzuSLGkL8+fevqnGoa7Kwpm4iD0MKZ3K46oOCivR4HPGa1XW+ceJInvSk58 w4YA6un2r0bPoS3ehVc8a2fZKAsdQQfd4hR4cc4dbmA79V/CzRmOK50KSDXlaKHcMwUV zEIAYDpm9zzdN9L7ClqAmdZyklxWxdhARemyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lHByB90RZpjsuIb/cS8vkRx/7Ij1JumeyKuJ9fC6OgkwE4jej3t0jwMCtfuaN4Yb04 dCT9OwDxE2pEyvTLkS1Qz45DWMzQ/TBgpvvheMq+qMLMv19QWSYfLJ1rfEoj1wBf7Ijx OurttQrHtQ63n1ppa6K7xIzQenkVNuNfz3vug= Received: by 10.224.111.140 with SMTP id s12mr680629qap.128.1254779247239; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?192.168.1.103? ([216.80.140.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm55272qwb.26.2009.10.05.14.47.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACA6971.2070309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:47:29 -0500 From: Dave User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Seepage, no more. Oil system References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, What would be the possibility of getting/salvaging a bypass valve off a mazda cooler? something that sends cold thick oil though a bypass to the exit, and not through the cooler. As it heats up it opens slowly letting thinner, hotter oil down through the cooler, and once its HOT oil, it ALL goes through the cabin heater. This does add complexity to an already problematic and may not be the cure, but it gives you additional oil cooling capacity which as we both know is a larger percentage of the heat shedding equation that in non-rotary engines.. If this isn't an option, then you could plumb (like you are asking) the front cooler to use hot coolant for cabin heat, and in my best estimation will work just fine for this function. The big outlet on the rear iron is the traditional heater outlet - its the hottest coolant... the return on a stock engine was on the water pump housing. The front oil cooler is more than robust enough to manage the thinner, lower pressure aqueous coolant. Dave