X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.100.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3873007 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:42:34 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.100.31; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n935foT0006994 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:41:50 -0400 Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id q.cc6.59d49a61 (29679) for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:41:46 -0400 (EDT) From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 01:41:46 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Good, bad news...too much oil pressure somewhere To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1254548506" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: WRJJRS@aol.com -------------------------------1254548506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/2009 10:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WRJJRS@aol.com writes: Chris, I would like to suggest that the connections to the oil filter may be reversed. most of the time the oil goes into the OUSIDE of the filter first. it returns to the engine thru the center. I have seen the reversal of these before. often the filter breaks internally and it seems like things are ok. The better the filter the higher pressure it will withstand. be sure your lines are routed properly for the filter you are using. To burst an Airquip hose you had VERY high pressure in the line. that would easily cause leaks. Bill Jepson Chris, I'm sorry if you have all this correct already but since you have said that you have had an oil leak since you put the remote adapter on this is what comes to mind. Some systems with gear or gerotor pumps can produce very high pressure. I modified a Kawasaki 900 engine for a guy to use in a racing car once doing a complete re plumbing of the engine. It worked great. The 900 Kawi has a roller bearing bottom end and as such runs lots of oil volume but may have as low as 5-7 PSI at idle! 35 psi is a normal pressure at max RPM. The Kawasaki has a gear type pump. I mention this because on that same engine at Willow Springs in the cold desert morning that same pump burst an oil filter when the driver reved the engine too high with cold oil. (Yes when I re-did the oiling I bypassed the check valve) There was nothing wrong with the engine, and the car ran fine later in the day. Point is that the filter has a burst pressure of AT LEAST 300 PSI. When I was at the Kawasaki Tech center the mantra was to always check the simple stuff first. I always mention this as I've seen several remote oil filters plumbed backwards. Once again sorry if this isn't the problem but better to mention it to everyone as an item to check. With many people this is the first remote filter they have ever installed. Bill Jepson -------------------------------1254548506 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/2/2009 10:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 WRJJRS@aol.com writes:
Chris,
I would like to suggest that the connections to the oil filter may= be=20 reversed. most of the time the oil goes into the OUSIDE of the filter fi= rst.=20 it returns to the engine thru the center. I have seen the reversal of th= ese=20 before. often the filter breaks internally and it seems like things are= ok.=20 The better the filter the higher pressure it will withstand. be sure you= r=20 lines are routed properly for the filter you are using. To burst an Airq= uip=20 hose you had VERY high pressure in the line. that would easily caus= e=20 leaks.
Bill Jepson 
Chris,
I'm sorry if you have all this correct already but since you have sai= d that=20 you have had an oil leak since you put the remote adapter on this is what= comes=20 to mind. Some systems with gear or gerotor pumps can produce very hig= h=20 pressure. I modified a Kawasaki 900 engine for a guy to use in a racing ca= r once=20 doing a complete re plumbing of the engine. It worked great. The 900 Kawi= has a=20 roller bearing bottom end and as such runs lots of oil volume but may have= as=20 low as 5-7 PSI at idle! 35 psi is a normal pressure at max RPM. The Kawasa= ki has=20 a gear type pump. I mention this because on that same engine at Willo= w=20 Springs in the cold desert morning that same pump burst an oil filter when= the=20 driver reved the engine too high with cold oil. (Yes when I re-did the oil= ing I=20 bypassed the check valve) There was nothing wrong with the engine, and the= car=20 ran fine later in the day. Point is that the filter has a burst pressure= of AT=20 LEAST 300 PSI.
 When I was at the Kawasaki Tech center the mantra was to always= check=20 the simple stuff first. I always mention this as I've seen several remote= oil=20 filters plumbed backwards.
Once again sorry if this isn't the problem but better to mention it= to=20 everyone as an item to check. With many people this is the first remote fi= lter=20 they have ever installed.
Bill Jepson
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