X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3872101 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:41:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.227; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so844122bwz.19 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zj6CjfPLUWLSQ2ibVchNJ+T4mPnqZfp6D9fxMfpzP6I=; b=PXOfkynQmtODqs59vCuSUgwnaG38jScKIiOSBe3dhHWQDKaEWe4a/u9Vllxaiu9W4k jZtb//stQd8ab0sZQCWPovRBjliiImjEhFSqq3zbwPmmhQFaLk0wrDRR5brVE9/Z5R0+ qMen5W3eYWx45gQWioH3uzrOs5GCEdI1Z+/AI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Il+RgsZx2b/TKGmuUvBrmnzW6yXmsVyME0zqrf5wFx3VGdsbdGMxDp0per2LAsRMrF u7sncVFlv5/7rv4ka+dxEIvU9GjeZ3nOGC65vmLipGsnmGAKVHSGU04k3wWdZ8h/2CYz CgjP5ehrv609Mq/0JFO0fxaUAU86O/Oc0niEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.206 with SMTP id f14mr986565bkc.95.1254480030815; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:40:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0910020340y506d59b3uae62db9f611e93b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555441a9d57f20474f1647a --00032555441a9d57f20474f1647a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I may be able to wear the Clarity Aloft headset, but from past experience, I have found "inside the ear canal" headsets uncomfortable after a while. Maybe the Clarity is different. I'm hoping that the tangential muffler is significantly quieter than the DNA that I'm currently running, thereby making my current ANR headsets adequate, and making my hangar neighbors happy too. I recently participated in the Pilots and Paws 5000 by transporting a cocker spaniel from San Angelo to Austin, and I couldn't help but feel sorry for the dog for having to listed to the exhaust noise for an hour and a half. If I were to do it on a regular basis, I would invest in a pair of doggie-muffs. Hopefully, the tangential muffler will make things more bearable. Mark On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Mike Wills wrote: > Mark, > > I dont know if you read my comments on the Clarity Aloft headset, but I > found it more effective than the Zulu. And a fair bit cheaper too, though > still expensive. Assuming you dont mind wearing earplugs its a good solution > although the rest of the world will still have to tolerate your noise. > > Mike Wills > RV-4 N144MW > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mark Steitle > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:36 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening > > Kelly, > > You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay ahead of the sound. ;-) > > Can anyone report on the effectiveness of the tangential muffler in actual > real world situations? (As I recall Al G. is running a tangential muffler > on his Velocity.) I ask because I'm in the process of building one for my > Lancair with the hopes that it will work better than the DNA muffler that > I'm currently running. I think it will work better at reducing the noise > level in the cabin, but at what cost to power? Hopefully, this will save me > the cost of a new Zulu ANR headset. Comments appreciated. > > Mark S. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Wills wrote: > >> Kelly, >> >> If you think the quiet is deafening go fly behind a rotary - now thats >> deafening! >> >> Mike Wills >> RV-4 N144MW >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Kelly Troyer >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:15 AM >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening >> >> Anyone out there ??.....................<:) >> -- >> Kelly Troyer >> "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine >> "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 >> "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------- Original message from "Patrick Panzera" < >> panzera@experimental-aviation.com>: -------------- >> >> Hey gang! >> >> >> >> I came across a rare find this weekend. >> >> Any serious rotorhead will certainly appreciate this. >> >> >> >> Bluelines from 1973 of the General Motors Wankel Rotary engine. >> >> >> >> I just put them up on eBay >> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> >> >> > --00032555441a9d57f20474f1647a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I may be able to wear the Clarity Aloft headset, but=A0from past exper= ience, I have found "inside the ear canal" headsets uncomfortable= after a while.=A0 Maybe the Clarity is different.=A0 I'm hoping that t= he tangential muffler is significantly quieter than the DNA that I'm cu= rrently running, thereby making my current ANR headsets adequate, and makin= g my hangar neighbors happy too.

I recently participated in the Pilots and Paws 5000 by transporting a c= ocker spaniel from San Angelo to Austin, and I couldn't help but feel s= orry for the dog for having to listed to the exhaust noise for an hour and = a half.=A0 If I were to do it on a regular basis, I would=A0invest in a pai= r of doggie-muffs.=A0 Hopefully, the tangential muffler will make things mo= re bearable.
=A0
Mark
=A0
=A0
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net&= gt; wrote:
Mark,
=A0
I dont know if you read my comments on= the Clarity Aloft headset, but I found it=A0more effective than the Zulu. = And a fair bit cheaper too, though still expensive.=A0Assuming you dont min= d wearing earplugs its a good solution although the rest of the world will = still have to tolerate your noise.
=A0
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:3= 6 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is De= afening

Kelly,
=A0
You just need to fly at Mach 1 so you stay ahead of the sound.=A0 ;-)<= /div>
=A0
Can anyone report on the effectiveness of the tangential muffler in ac= tual real world situations?=A0 (As I recall Al G. is running a tangential m= uffler on his Velocity.)=A0 I ask because I'm in the process of buildin= g one for my Lancair with the hopes that it will work better than the DNA m= uffler that I'm currently running.=A0 I think it will work better at re= ducing the noise level in the cabin, but at what cost to power?=A0 Hopefull= y, this will save me the cost of a new Zulu ANR headset.=A0 Comments apprec= iated.
=A0
Mark S.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mike Wills <rv= -4mike@cox.net> wrote:
Kelly,
=A0
=A0If you think the quiet is deafening= go fly behind a rotary - now thats deafening!
=A0
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 = 7:15 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafen= ing

Anyone out there ??.....................<:)
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
&q= uot;RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold <= br>


=A0
-------------- Original message from "Patrick Panzera&q= uot; <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>: --------------

Hey gang!

=A0

I came across a rare find this week= end.

Any serious rotorhead will certainl= y appreciate this.

=A0

Bluelines from 1973 of the General = Motors Wankel Rotary engine.

=A0

I just put them up on eBay

=A0

http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings<= /span>

=A0

Pat

=A0



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