X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omta.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3867389 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:06:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=4.59.182.110; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca Received: from torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.167.90.101]) by tormtz03.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20090928000543.MIGO12567.tormtz03.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:05:43 -0400 Received: from PCdeRita ([142.167.90.101]) by torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with SMTP id <20090928000541.UWIC23591.torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@PCdeRita> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:05:41 -0400 Message-ID: <57AB180C00EF4A72B7FEC9060ED01DE0@PCdeRita> From: "Rino" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:05:31 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA3FB6.3F9D6D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA3FB6.3F9D6D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageWhen this problem started I reset the map table to original, all = zeros. The engine run pretty good at that setting it makes small = adjustments when I set it to auto adjust. So the map table is set at = zero at the moment. The problem starts at a higher rpm than 3800 but I = will keep an eye on this the next time I try it. Thanks Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Bradburry=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller If the surge takes you above and below 3800 rpm, you could be looking = at two different map table addresses for the same manifold pressure. = How do the two areas compare? When it was running ok did you get a = chance to write down the numbers in the table? =20 Bill B=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:37 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller I did install the new chips to correct that problem. =20 Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rino=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller =20 Interesting! It could be hunting for a map address. I am investigating that for the service alert. =20 Thanks Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Bradburry=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller =20 Rino, I just noticed that there is a service alert for EC-3s shipped = prior to 6-1-08. When did you get yours?=20 Surging could be caused by the EC-3 hunting for a map table = address. Are you quite certain that this is not related to the map = table? Bill B =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller Tracy, =20 Anyone had a problem with the Renesis crank angle sensor and had = to change it. I may have to get a new crank angle sensor, but first I = want to check with you guys. =20 Tracy is probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this problem = before. I cannot get full power on my Renesis for takeoff on Controller A. = Seems like controller B works OK. It is not the fuel mixture, I tried that. Actually, when the = throttle is wide open the mixture display goes up and down rapidly, from = full lean to full rich and the engine surge. =20 I had a similar problem when I first installed and started the = Renesis. I had the EC2 controller then and had to get the EC3 to fix = the problem. Now it is coming back to me on the EC3, I think. The = problem then was with the crank sensor, the EC2 could not handle the = sensor signal at more than about 5000 rpm. =20 I think the problem started progressively during the last few = hours of flight, at first I thought it was a fuel mixture problem and = was trying to ajust for that but now it is not a mixture problem. Since = the controller B has NO temp. sensor and works ok, I wonder if it has = anything to do with that problem on controller A. =20 Rino Lacombe Renesis powered Glass Goose =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA3FB6.3F9D6D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message=
When this problem started I reset the = map table to=20 original, all zeros.  The engine run pretty good at that setting it = makes=20 small adjustments when I set it to auto adjust.  So the map table = is set at=20 zero at the moment.  The problem starts at a higher rpm than 3800 = but I=20 will keep an eye on this the next time I try it.
 
Thanks
Rino
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Bradburry
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 5:56=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3=20 Controller

If the surge takes you above and below 3800 = rpm, you=20 could be looking at two different map table addresses for the same = manifold=20 pressure.  How do the two areas compare?  When it was = running ok did=20 you get a chance to write down the numbers in the=20 table?

 

Bill = B 

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Rino
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 3:37=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3=20 Controller

I did install the new = chips to=20 correct that problem.

 

Rino

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Rino=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Sunday,=20 September 27, 2009 4:24 PM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller

 

Interesting!  It = could be=20 hunting for a map address.

I am investigating = that for the=20 service alert.

 

Thanks

Rino

----- Original = Message -----=20

From: Bill=20 Bradburry

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent:=20 Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:47 = PM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller

 

Rino,

I just noticed = that there is=20 a service alert for EC-3s shipped prior to 6-1-08.  When did = you get=20 yours? 

Surging could be = caused by=20 the EC-3 hunting for a map table address.  Are you quite = certain that=20 this is not related to the map table?

Bill=20 B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Rino
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009=20 11:02 AM
To:=20 Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3=20 Controller

Tracy,

 

Anyone had a problem = with the=20 Renesis crank angle sensor and had to change it.  I may have = to get a=20 new crank angle sensor, but first I want to check with you=20 guys.

 

Tracy is=20 probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got = this problem=20 before.

I cannot get full = power on my=20 Renesis for takeoff on Controller A.  Seems like = controller B=20 works OK.

It is not the fuel = mixture, I=20 tried that.  Actually, when the throttle is wide open the = mixture=20 display goes up and down rapidly, from full lean to full rich and = the=20 engine surge.

 

I had a similar = problem when I=20 first installed and started the Renesis.  I had the EC2 = controller=20 then and had to get the EC3 to fix the problem.  Now it is = coming=20 back to me on the EC3, I think.  The problem then was with = the crank=20 sensor, the EC2 could not handle the sensor signal at more than = about 5000=20 rpm.

 

I think the problem = started=20 progressively during the last few hours of flight, at first I = thought it=20 was a fuel mixture problem and was trying to ajust for that but = now it is=20 not a mixture problem.  Since the controller B has NO temp. = sensor=20 and works ok, I wonder if it has anything to do with that problem = on=20 controller A.

 

Rino=20 Lacombe

Renesis powered = Glass=20 Goose

 

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