X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omta.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3867223 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:25:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=4.59.182.110; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca Received: from torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.167.72.225]) by tormtz05.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20090927192440.OPSS15580.tormtz05.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:24:40 -0400 Received: from PCdeRita ([142.167.72.225]) by torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with SMTP id <20090927192439.STQB24788.torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@PCdeRita> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:24:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Rino" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:24:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA3F8E.FC885720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA3F8E.FC885720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Had the same problem of overvoltage but could not eleminate it by trial = and error, knowing the EC3 was available maybe I did not try long = enough. For the magnetic particles, I did clean the CAS to make sure that was = not the problem. Thanks Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller Bill,=20 It has been a while, but from what I recall of my problem with the = Renesis CAS was that the output voltage was too high and would overpower = (technical term) the EC-2. The solution was to install a zener diode = and resistor in the CAS circuit (values determined by trial and error). = FYI, I converted my old style CAS to the crank-mounted CAS. Without = knowing any better, I fabricated the CAS bracket out of 4130 (didn't = want any failures on this part). Turns out, any ferrous metal nearby = the CAS will corrupt the signal. I stumbled across that bit of = information in the Renesis shop manual. It mentions that you need to = keep the CAS clean of road grime and metal particles. So, I made a new = bracket out of aluminum and it cured that problem. Live and learn! Mark S. On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Bradburry = wrote: Rino, What exactly is it about the Renesis crank angle sensor signal that = the EC-2 can not handle?=20 Bill B -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller Tracy, Anyone had a problem with the Renesis crank angle sensor and had to = change it. I may have to get a new crank angle sensor, but first I want = to check with you guys. Tracy is probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this problem = before. I cannot get full power on my Renesis for takeoff on Controller A. = Seems like controller B works OK. It is not the fuel mixture, I tried that. Actually, when the = throttle is wide open the mixture display goes up and down rapidly, from = full lean to full rich and the engine surge. I had a similar problem when I first installed and started the = Renesis. I had the EC2 controller then and had to get the EC3 to fix = the problem. Now it is coming back to me on the EC3, I think. The = problem then was with the crank sensor, the EC2 could not handle the = sensor signal at more than about 5000 rpm. I think the problem started progressively during the last few hours = of flight, at first I thought it was a fuel mixture problem and was = trying to ajust for that but now it is not a mixture problem. Since the = controller B has NO temp. sensor and works ok, I wonder if it has = anything to do with that problem on controller A. Rino Lacombe Renesis powered Glass Goose ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA3F8E.FC885720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Had the same problem of overvoltage but = could not=20 eleminate it by trial and error, knowing the EC3 was available maybe I = did not=20 try long enough.
 
For the magnetic particles, I did clean = the CAS to=20 make sure that was not the problem.
 
Thanks
Rino
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 1:40=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3=20 Controller

Bill,
 
It has been a while, but from what I recall of my problem with = the=20 Renesis CAS was that the output voltage was too high and = would=20 overpower (technical term) the EC-2.  The solution was to install = a zener=20 diode and resistor in the CAS circuit (values determined by trial and=20 error). 
 
FYI, I converted my old style CAS to the crank-mounted CAS.  = Without=20 knowing any better, I fabricated the CAS bracket out of 4130 (didn't = want any=20 failures on this part).  Turns out, any ferrous metal nearby the = CAS will=20 corrupt the signal.  I stumbled across that bit of information in = the=20 Renesis shop manual.  It mentions that you need to keep the CAS = clean of=20 road grime and metal particles.  So, I made a new bracket out of = aluminum=20 and it cured that problem.  Live and learn!
 
Mark S.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill = Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>= =20 wrote:

Rino,

What exactly is it = about the=20 Renesis crank angle sensor signal that the EC-2 can not=20 handle? 

Bill = B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rino
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 11:02=20 AM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller

Tracy,

 

Anyone had a problem = with the=20 Renesis crank angle sensor and had to change it.  I may have to = get a=20 new crank angle sensor, but first I want to check with you=20 guys.

 

Tracy is=20 probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this problem=20 before.

I cannot get full = power on my=20 Renesis for takeoff on Controller A.  Seems like = controller B=20 works OK.

It is not the fuel = mixture, I=20 tried that.  Actually, when the throttle is wide open the = mixture=20 display goes up and down rapidly, from full lean to full rich and = the engine=20 surge.

 

I had a similar = problem when I=20 first installed and started the Renesis.  I had the EC2 = controller then=20 and had to get the EC3 to fix the problem.  Now it is coming = back to me=20 on the EC3, I think.  The problem then was with the crank = sensor, the=20 EC2 could not handle the sensor signal at more than about 5000=20 rpm.

 

I think the problem = started=20 progressively during the last few hours of flight, at first I = thought it was=20 a fuel mixture problem and was trying to ajust for that but now it = is not a=20 mixture problem.  Since the controller B has NO temp. sensor = and works=20 ok, I wonder if it has anything to do with that problem on = controller=20 A.

 

Rino = Lacombe

Renesis powered Glass=20 Goose

 


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