X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com ([209.85.220.213] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3867172 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:41:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.213; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so3383953fxm.1 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DowqjnuWvnCKYmaPfv3FB2UPvVK/yfNIM63+DcAUpEw=; b=DFBx5SP54QCSgrTcm+55f8lcuoUVtmw3mPvCqdZpZuQfBsceCi6EV1tOvj/QELKT6I SrVyc1s7rUcSeAcgGapG2+H/vIvEV+z+IyH6/cYSw5D2HA2WDWiVi9wDlmWj/mbqBh7G vgFvN99IjWWWcdyYJDmpkRMhHId3vnO8so3f0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZuTCz42rgo77q6scVV2hOdmkMLtaPHt3vIpEbfBySE+Sk6dIG3eazvXA8OSezOOa0l 8dXuCe4b2bfGzYGKrdrqD8azWPpAB8RtgIIFO7Sr/GvRleyvxaOkjnccueUho47aNieq Mtt2aIaZSqiRztJ4yIA1DaZLXDsx8mOH1IkoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.11.22 with SMTP id r22mr2201515bkr.30.1254069651487; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:40:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:40:51 -0500 Message-ID: <5cf132c0909270940k4244e0efp66d0164753c14b4a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255585b219bb3d047491d881 --0003255585b219bb3d047491d881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, It has been a while, but from what I recall of my problem with the Renesis CAS was that the output voltage was too high and would overpower (technical term) the EC-2. The solution was to install a zener diode and resistor in the CAS circuit (values determined by trial and error). FYI, I converted my old style CAS to the crank-mounted CAS. Without knowing any better, I fabricated the CAS bracket out of 4130 (didn't want any failures on this part). Turns out, any ferrous metal nearby the CAS will corrupt the signal. I stumbled across that bit of information in the Renesis shop manual. It mentions that you need to keep the CAS clean of road grime and metal particles. So, I made a new bracket out of aluminum and it cured that problem. Live and learn! Mark S. On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > Rino, > > What exactly is it about the Renesis crank angle sensor signal that the > EC-2 can not handle? > > Bill B > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On > Behalf Of *Rino > *Sent:* Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:02 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller > > Tracy, > > > > Anyone had a problem with the Renesis crank angle sensor and had to change > it. I may have to get a new crank angle sensor, but first I want to check > with you guys. > > > > Tracy is probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this problem before. > > I cannot get full power on my Renesis for takeoff on Controller A. Seems > like controller B works OK. > > It is not the fuel mixture, I tried that. Actually, when the throttle is > wide open the mixture display goes up and down rapidly, from full lean to > full rich and the engine surge. > > > > I had a similar problem when I first installed and started the Renesis. I > had the EC2 controller then and had to get the EC3 to fix the problem. Now > it is coming back to me on the EC3, I think. The problem then was with the > crank sensor, the EC2 could not handle the sensor signal at more than about > 5000 rpm. > > > > I think the problem started progressively during the last few hours of > flight, at first I thought it was a fuel mixture problem and was trying to > ajust for that but now it is not a mixture problem. Since the controller B > has NO temp. sensor and works ok, I wonder if it has anything to do with > that problem on controller A. > > > > Rino Lacombe > > Renesis powered Glass Goose > > > --0003255585b219bb3d047491d881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
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It has been a while, but from what I recall of my problem with the Ren= esis CAS was that the output voltage was=A0too high=A0and would overpower (= technical term) the EC-2.=A0 The solution was to install a zener diode and = resistor in the CAS circuit (values determined by trial and error).=A0
=A0
FYI, I converted my old style CAS to the crank-mounted CAS.=A0 Without= knowing any better, I fabricated the CAS bracket out of 4130 (didn't w= ant any failures on this part).=A0 Turns out, any ferrous metal nearby the = CAS will corrupt the signal.=A0 I stumbled across that bit of information i= n the Renesis shop manual.=A0 It mentions that you need to keep the CAS cle= an of road grime and metal particles.=A0 So, I made a new bracket out of al= uminum and it cured that problem.=A0 Live and learn!
=A0
Mark S.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bill Bradburry= <bbradbur= ry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Rino,

What exactly is it about the Renesis crank angle sensor sig= nal that the EC-2 can not handle?=A0

Bill B

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et] On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, September 27,= 2009 11:02 AM
To: Rotar= y motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller=

Tracy,

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Anyone had a problem with the Renesis crank angle sensor and ha= d to change it.=A0 I may have to get a new crank angle sensor, but first I = want to check with you guys.

=A0

Tracy is probably gone to Colorado, may= be someone got this problem before.

I cannot get full power on my Renesis=A0for takeoff on Controll= er A.=A0 Seems like controller B works OK.

It is not the fuel mixture, I tried that.=A0 Actually, when the= throttle is wide open the mixture display goes up and down rapidly, from f= ull lean to full rich and the engine surge.

=A0

I had a similar problem when I first installed and started the = Renesis.=A0 I had the EC2 controller then and had to get the EC3 to fix the= problem.=A0 Now it is coming back to me on the EC3, I think.=A0 The proble= m then was with the crank sensor, the EC2 could not handle the sensor signa= l at more than about 5000 rpm.

=A0

I think the problem started progressively during the last few h= ours of flight, at first I thought it was a fuel mixture problem and was tr= ying to ajust for that but now it is not a mixture problem.=A0 Since the co= ntroller B has NO temp. sensor and works ok, I wonder if it has anything to= do with that problem on controller A.

=A0

Rino Lacombe

Renesis powered Glass Goose

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