X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omta.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3867133 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:39:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=4.59.182.110; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca Received: from torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.167.84.59]) by tormtz04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20090927153912.ETOP21989.tormtz04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:39:12 -0400 Received: from PCdeRita ([142.167.84.59]) by torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with SMTP id <20090927153911.RVTS23591.torspm02.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@PCdeRita> for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:39:11 -0400 Message-ID: <8D134BE18EAE4AF993118696D890E5C0@PCdeRita> From: "Rino" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:39:01 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01CA3F6F.7DC36E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01CA3F6F.7DC36E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageAt that time, with the EC2, I could get the engine to run up to = about 5000 rpm, after that it was missing, running rough and surging but = would not run any faster. I worked with Tracy on that, he told me to = add diodes in the CAS circuit, it did improve the situation but did not = correct it. We tried a few diode configurations with no acceptable = results. Tracy mentionned that the EC3 controller would fix that = problem so I ordered one and it did fix the problem. But now it seems = that it is comming back. Since the problem is with controller A only, it could be that it is in = controller A. I did not dare fly with one controller operational only. = I get full power on controller B. On controller A, the symptomes are = the same as when I had the problem with the EC2 controller. Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Bradburry=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Controller Rino, What exactly is it about the Renesis crank angle sensor signal that = the EC-2 can not handle?=20 Bill B =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rino Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3 Controller Tracy, =20 Anyone had a problem with the Renesis crank angle sensor and had to = change it. I may have to get a new crank angle sensor, but first I want = to check with you guys. =20 Tracy is probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this problem = before. I cannot get full power on my Renesis for takeoff on Controller A. = Seems like controller B works OK. It is not the fuel mixture, I tried that. Actually, when the throttle = is wide open the mixture display goes up and down rapidly, from full = lean to full rich and the engine surge. =20 I had a similar problem when I first installed and started the = Renesis. I had the EC2 controller then and had to get the EC3 to fix = the problem. Now it is coming back to me on the EC3, I think. The = problem then was with the crank sensor, the EC2 could not handle the = sensor signal at more than about 5000 rpm. =20 I think the problem started progressively during the last few hours of = flight, at first I thought it was a fuel mixture problem and was trying = to ajust for that but now it is not a mixture problem. Since the = controller B has NO temp. sensor and works ok, I wonder if it has = anything to do with that problem on controller A. =20 Rino Lacombe Renesis powered Glass Goose =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01CA3F6F.7DC36E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message=
At that time, with the EC2, I could get = the engine=20 to run up to about 5000 rpm, after that it was missing, running rough = and=20 surging but would not run any faster.   I worked with Tracy on = that,=20 he told me to add diodes in the CAS circuit, it did improve the = situation but=20 did not correct it.  We tried a few diode configurations with no = acceptable=20 results.  Tracy mentionned that the EC3 controller would fix that = problem=20 so I ordered one and it did fix the problem.  But now it seems that = it is=20 comming back.
 
Since the problem is with controller A = only, it=20 could be that it is in controller A.  I did not dare fly with one=20 controller operational only.  I get full power on controller = B.  =20 On controller A, the symptomes are the same as when I had the problem = with the=20 EC2 controller.
 
Rino
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Bradburry
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 12:15=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3=20 Controller

Rino,

What exactly is it = about the=20 Renesis crank angle sensor signal that the EC-2 can not=20 handle? 

Bill=20 B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Rino
Sent: Sunday, September 27, = 2009 11:02=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] EC3=20 Controller

Tracy,

 

Anyone had a problem = with the=20 Renesis crank angle sensor and had to change it.  I may have to = get a new=20 crank angle sensor, but first I want to check with you=20 guys.

 

Tracy is=20 probably gone to Colorado, maybe someone got this = problem=20 before.

I cannot get full power = on my=20 Renesis for takeoff on Controller A.  Seems like controller = B works=20 OK.

It is not the fuel = mixture, I=20 tried that.  Actually, when the throttle is wide open the mixture = display=20 goes up and down rapidly, from full lean to full rich and the engine=20 surge.

 

I had a similar problem = when I=20 first installed and started the Renesis.  I had the EC2 = controller then=20 and had to get the EC3 to fix the problem.  Now it is coming back = to me=20 on the EC3, I think.  The problem then was with the crank sensor, = the EC2=20 could not handle the sensor signal at more than about 5000=20 rpm.

 

I think the problem = started=20 progressively during the last few hours of flight, at first I thought = it was a=20 fuel mixture problem and was trying to ajust for that but now it is = not a=20 mixture problem.  Since the controller B has NO temp. sensor and = works=20 ok, I wonder if it has anything to do with that problem on controller=20 A.

 

Rino = Lacombe

Renesis powered Glass=20 Goose

 

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