X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3866068 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:35:30 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.53; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-157-63-231.mco.bellsouth.net[68.157.63.231]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090925203450H0300s3okle>; Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.157.63.231] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:34:51 -0400 Message-ID: <0A810294BFF74BF8893B3D675B6BC167@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA3DFE.1B540880" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aco+DV2jIRGznvZRRLOJG36PWrad/wAESqBA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA3DFE.1B540880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, If you ever fly for long times, be sure you test them for those times. My son has a Lightspeed 30-3G and the Lightspeed Mach 1 with custom ear molds. I really liked the 3G till we went on a long trip. By the time we got back I was in misery! Chris really likes the Mach 1. It is very comfortable according to him and though not ANR, does as good a job as the 3G on attenuation. I have not tried the Mach 1, but I am building my own headset using the Clarity type ear pads. Keep us posted on your results. Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:23 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets Well I just bought a Clarity Aloft headset from Marv Golden pilot supplies. Marv offers a 30 day trial period. I have a friend with a Zulu and another friend with a Bose so I should be able to compare all 3 side by side with no real risk of getting stuck with something that doesnt work. I'll let you all know what I find out (which of course will be very subjective). Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Thomas To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:05 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for equalizing air pressure in the ear. I believe with the Clarity headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to let the air pressure equalize (though don't quote me on that.) For most helicopter operations, this is a non-issue. Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote: Mike, Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing aid ear plugs - bloody good idea. George ( down under) OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject originator. George, the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was worth it. One more possibility. Anyone familiar with these: http://www.anr-headsets.com:80/Html_folder/CEP.html I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down in an open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms and these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than any ANR headset he'd ever tried. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: George Lendich To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... Mike, As you might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for such equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for in the states. George (down under) My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years old and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly better than my old 20K, but not enough to justify upgrading. I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a few weeks ago and flew with it in the RV for about an hour. Significantly better than my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once I can scare up the cash. Another friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been able to talk him out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Thomas To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed Zulu that can report on its effectiveness? Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: Lightspeed 33G. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: Mark, Which ANR do you use? Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: Good report Mike. I know what you mean about a quieter muffler. My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies. The rotary has both. So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen to the high frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low rumble. If I could only find an ANR that can do both I would be a happy camper. Mark On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills wrote: I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight time today. And for the first time I landed and was completely satisfied with the flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was the first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that had to be fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty decent. I've got just over 9 hours of flight time and about 40 hours of engine run time now. So far all of my flight time has been directly over the airport because to venture away requires flying over about 50 miles of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But I'm starting to think seriously about stretching the legs a little... Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CA3DFE.1B540880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike,

If you ever fly for long times, be sure you test them for those times.  My son has a Lightspeed 30-3G and the Lightspeed Mach 1 = with custom ear molds.  I really liked the 3G till we went on a long trip.  By the time we got back I was in misery!  Chris really = likes the Mach 1.  It is very comfortable according to him and though not = ANR, does as good a job as the 3G on attenuation.  I have not tried the Mach = 1, but I am building my own headset using the Clarity type ear = pads. 

Keep us posted on your results.

Bill B

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike Wills
Sent: Friday, September = 25, 2009 2:23 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Headsets

Well I just bought a Clarity Aloft headset from Marv = Golden pilot supplies. Marv offers a 30 day trial period. I have a friend with = a Zulu and another friend with a Bose so I should be able to compare all 3 side = by side with no real risk of getting stuck with something that doesnt work. = I'll let you all know what I find out (which of course will be very subjective).

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:05 AM

Subject: [Norton = AntiSpam] [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets

 

But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility = for equalizing air pressure in the ear.  I believe with the Clarity = headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to let the air pressure = equalize (though don't quote me on that.)  For most helicopter operations, = this is a non-issue.


Best Regards,

 

Steve = Thomas

__________________________________________________= _____

 

 




 

On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich = wrote:



 

 Mike,

Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing aid ear plugs - bloody good idea.

George ( down under)

OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly = Rotary so rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject originator.

 

George, the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until = I flew with the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was worth = it.

 

One more possibility. Anyone familiar with = these:

 

 

I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He = flew down in an open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms = and these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than any = ANR headset he'd ever tried.

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW

----- Original Message = -----

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 9:12 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

 

Mike,

As you might be aware, we pay significantly more here = in Aus for such equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for = in the states.

George (down under)

 

My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 = years old and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth = between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly better than my = old 20K, but not enough to justify upgrading.

 

I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a few = weeks ago and flew with it in the RV for about an hour. Significantly better than = my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once I can scare up the = cash.

 

Another friend has the Bose which he just bought. = Havent been able to talk him out of it yet for a test flight but I hope = to.

 

Mike Wills

RV-4 N144MW

----- Original Message = -----

From: Steve Thomas

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 8:40 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

 

Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed Zulu = that can report on its effectiveness?


Best Regards,

 

Steve Thomas

__________________________________________________= _____

 

 




 

On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle = wrote:



Lightspeed 33G.



 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve = Thomas <glasair2@me.com> wrote:

Mark,

 

Which ANR do you = use?


Best Regards,

 

Steve = Thomas

______________________________________________= _________

 

 




 

On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle = wrote:



Good report Mike.  I know what you mean = about a quieter muffler.  My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies.  The rotary = has both.  So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen = to the high frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low rumble.  If = I could only find an ANR that can do both I would be a happy = camper. 

 

Mark

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net> wrote:

I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight time = today. And for the first time I landed and was completely satisfied with the = flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was the first flight = where I didnt feel like there was anything that had to be fixed before the next = flight. Even the landing was pretty decent.

 

I've got just over 9 hours of flight time and = about 40 hours of engine run time now. So far all of my flight time has been directly over the airport because to venture away requires flying over = about 50 miles of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But I'm starting to = think seriously about stretching the legs a little...

 

Mike = Wills

RV-4 = N144MW

 

 

 

 

 

 

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