X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from poplet2.per.eftel.com ([203.24.100.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3863771 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:46:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.24.100.45; envelope-from=lendich@aanet.com.au Received: from sv1-1.aanet.com.au (sv1-1.per.aanet.com.au [203.24.100.68]) by poplet2.per.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553041736E0 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:22 +0800 (WST) Received: from ownerf1fc517b8 (203.171.92.134.static.rev.aanet.com.au [203.171.92.134]) by sv1-1.aanet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 326A8BEC042 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:46:17 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:46:18 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA3CE2.B8266580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090923-0, 09/23/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA3CE2.B8266580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, I did wonder about that. George ( down under) But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for = equalizing air pressure in the ear. I believe with the Clarity = headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to let the air = pressure equalize (though don't quote me on that.) For most helicopter = operations, this is a non-issue. Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote: Mike, Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing aid = ear plugs - bloody good idea. George ( down under) OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so = rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject = originator. George, the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with = the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was worth it. One more possibility. Anyone familiar with these: http://www.anr-headsets.com:80/Html_folder/CEP.html I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down in an = open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms and = these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than any = ANR headset he'd ever tried. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: George Lendich To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... Mike, As you might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for = such equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for in = the states. George (down under) My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years old = and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth = between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly better = than my old 20K, but not enough to justify upgrading. I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a few weeks ago = and flew with it in the RV for about an hour. Significantly better than = my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once I can scare up the cash. Another friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been = able to talk him out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Thomas To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed Zulu that can = report on its effectiveness? Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: Lightspeed 33G. =20 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas = wrote: Mark, Which ANR do you use? Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: Good report Mike. I know what you mean about a = quieter muffler. My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low = frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies. The rotary has = both. So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen to the high = frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low rumble. If I could = only find an ANR that can do both I would be a happy camper.=20 Mark On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills = wrote: I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight time = today. And for the first time I landed and was completely satisfied with = the flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was the = first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that had to be = fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty decent. I've got just over 9 hours of flight time and about = 40 hours of engine run time now. So far all of my flight time has been = directly over the airport because to venture away requires flying over = about 50 miles of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But I'm = starting to think seriously about stretching the legs a little... Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA3CE2.B8266580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Steve,
 I did wonder about = that.
George ( down under)
But,=20 these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for = equalizing air=20 pressure in the ear.  I believe with the Clarity headsets, you = need to=20 pull them out every-so-often to let the air pressure equalize (though = don't=20 quote me on that.)  For most helicopter operations, this is a=20 non-issue.

Best Regards,

Steve Thomas
_______________________________________________________


=

On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote:
 
 Mike,
Their similar to the Clarity Aloft = headsets=20 which use hearing aid ear plugs - bloody good idea.
George ( down under)
OK Al, sorry about that. I read = everything=20 from Fly Rotary so rarely pay attention to the subject line - even = when=20 I'm the subject originator.
 
George, the Bose is $1000 and the = Zulu is=20 $850. Until I flew with the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was = worth=20 it.
 
One more possibility. Anyone = familiar with=20 these:
 
http://www.a= nr-headsets.com:80/Html_folder/CEP.html
 
I had a DAR inspect my glider a = few months=20 ago. He flew down in an open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a = terrible time=20 hearing comms and these solved those problems. He reported that it = worked=20 better than any ANR headset he'd ever tried.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message = -----
From: George Lendich
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Monday, September 21, = 2009 9:12=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = nothing to=20 report...

Mike,
As you might be aware, we pay = significantly=20 more here in Aus for such equipment, can you tell me what the = Bose -X=20 and the Zulu go for in the states.
George (down = under)
 
My headset is the original = Lightspeed 20K -=20 about 12 years old and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K = swapping=20 back and forth between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The = 33K is=20 slightly better than my old 20K, but not enough to justify=20 upgrading.
 
I borrowed another friend's = Lightspeed=20 Zulu a few weeks ago and flew with it in the RV for about an = hour.=20 Significantly better than my 20K and I plan on making that = upgrade=20 once I can scare up the cash.
 
Another friend has the Bose = which he just=20 bought. Havent been able to talk him out of it yet for a test = flight=20 but I hope to.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message = -----
From: Steve Thomas
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Monday, September = 21, 2009=20 8:40 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = nothing to=20 report...

Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed = Zulu that=20 can report on its effectiveness?

Best = Regards,

Steve = Thomas
_______________________________________________________


=

On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle = wrote:
Lightspeed 33G.


 
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, = Steve=20 Thomas <glasair2@me.com> wrote:
Mark,

Which ANR do you use?

Best Regards,

Steve = Thomas
_______________________________________________________

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On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle = wrote:

Good report Mike.  I know what you mean = about a=20 quieter muffler.  My ANR headset does a good job = of=20 killing the low frequencies, but a poor job on the = higher=20 frequencies.  The rotary has both.  So = take=20 your pick, turn the ANR on and listen to the = high=20 frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low=20 rumble.  If I could only find an ANR that can do = both I=20 would be a happy camper. 
 
Mark

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 = PM, Mike=20 Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net> wrote:
I added another 1.3 = hours to my=20 total flight time today. And for the first time I = landed and=20 was completely satisfied with the flight. I'd still = like to=20 quiet it down a little, but this was the first = flight where=20 I didnt feel like there was anything that had to be = fixed=20 before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty=20 decent.
 
I've got just = over 9 hours=20 of flight time and about 40 hours of engine run=20 time now. So far all of my flight time has been = directly over the airport because to venture away = requires=20 flying over about 50 miles of mostly unlandable = mountainous=20 terrain. But I'm starting to think seriously about=20 stretching the legs a little...
 
Mike = Wills
RV-4=20 = N144MW





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